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Update on my baby nephew

Thanks to many, many prayers and positive thoughts from many LJ friends, friends and family, my 4 month old nephew is back home.

The medical bills have been astronomical. Thank God my brother and his wife are provided an excellent health.
Just to give you an idea as to how outrageous our medical system is, these are just a FEW of the bills I can remember he told me about:

1. The bill from the emergency room has not been received yet.
2. Bill for Children's hospital so far is about $30,000.00, and the bills continue to trickle in from people my brother has never heard of. The baby was in that hospital for 3 days, and on the 4th day he was taken out early in the morning.
3. At ambulance was $3,000.00
4. The crib for the baby was $3,000.00 per day. He used the crib 3 days, so that was $6,000.00.

When this baby nephew was born, the total price was $25,000.00!
What an abomination to charge such sinful prices for health care!

To those who left comments in my last post, and who sent me private messages, thank you from the bottom of my heart!



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Apr. 1st, 2013 09:57 pm (UTC)
Our medical insurance is very good too. But many people don't have that luxury. And it is a luxury!

I'm glad the little guy is OK.
Apr. 25th, 2013 11:55 pm (UTC)
Thank you, girlspell!

Health care is a luxury for those who work and do not have insurance! Healthcare comes so easily for those able bodied who have refused to work a day in their lives.
Apr. 1st, 2013 10:03 pm (UTC)
You haven't got a clue what goes into health care.
Apr. 1st, 2013 11:37 pm (UTC)
I am curious to what clues she is missing.

Honestly, I agree with you...it is messed up to charge someone 30K for 3 days when that's the average american wage... -___-. 3k for an ambulance ride is ridiculous. I would rather have a samaritan drive me. or die. legit. If that means drowning in medical bill stress.

I have my parents insurance for 1 more year. After that i'll get private but who knows how good it'll be.
Apr. 2nd, 2013 10:44 pm (UTC)
24/7 skilled nursing care. Doctors, both on the floor and on call. Equipment usage; includes inventory and purchasing (which becomes very expensive, as sterilized single-use medical equipment has expiration dates). For MRIs, X-rays, and the like, you have to pay for both running the machine and then reading the results (two entirely different sets of skills, before you get any ideas). Cleaning the hospital. Equipment sterilization. Administration, which includes intake, coding, billing, insurance follow-up, receipt posting, and I'm sure I'm forgetting parts of it. Running the on-site drug dispensary. Oh, let's not forget the price of the drugs. I'm sure I'm missing stuff, this is just off the top of my head.

And even after you total all of that up, you need to consider that the providers/facilities won't GET all of that money. They bill the insurance companies, who determine what they will and won't pay for, and for how much. Often there are steep discounts that the provider will never see, one of the things they're willing to put up with in order to attract patients with certain kinds of insurance. And with some payers, Medicaid especially, if they don't pay you aren't allowed to go to the patient for payment (not that you would, it's like squeezing blood from a stone). Speaking of, there are people who are indigent, or who disappear, or simply don't pay, or whatever. The hospital gets a very small write-off for that, but they eat most of that cost.

That costs. You want trained people tending to your nephew? You're not going to get them for minimum wage, and FUCK YOU SAVANNAH for calling their wages sinful. You have no idea what they go through on a daily basis, you don't know what kinds of infections they're risking by working there, you have no idea how many hundreds or thousands of hours of training these people put in just to get where they are. Some doctors go deep, deep into debt to get where they are, they spend years making a pittance as residents, and they've fucking EARNED the right to make what they do.
Apr. 2nd, 2013 11:35 pm (UTC)
If I ever get charged $30k for a 3 day stay I will probably disappear unless I end up a millionaire. My bachelor's degree cost me tons and with it I made less then 50k. With a masters I'll make maybe 70k. That's like half of my salary then. Oh and not to mention - I was dealing with people who have SEVERE mental issues...schizophrenia, drug addicts, bi polar, abused children, adoption, sexual abuse victims, etc... OF ALL AGES...going into their HOMES risking my life to help others. Some of these people were straight up insane but someone has to deal with them or they will run amuck in society doing who knows what. In a way, I found my job just as worthy of a 6 figure salary as a nurse.

I'm not saying that doctors or nurses should make any less, because I believe they should make a great 6 figure salary. I don't think anyone was saying the doctors should make any less?

HOWEVER - maybe we need to adapt to the economy as a government because it's not fair to work your ass off as a teacher or any other profession and take half of your earnings away because you got sick.

Your attitude disgusted me honestly and this sounds like a personal issue. Unfortunately in society, you are the minority with your digressions.

Edited at 2013-04-02 11:38 pm (UTC)
Apr. 3rd, 2013 01:43 am (UTC)
Don't much care what you think. Healthcare is expensive because there are a lot of people involved. The only way to cut prices without cutting people off is to reduce salaries. And where are you going to cut them?
Apr. 4th, 2013 01:38 am (UTC)
Okay, well I think you're an asshole and no one asked for your opinion either sweetie.
Apr. 4th, 2013 10:26 pm (UTC)
Actually, you did. Look up a few comments and see for yourself.
Apr. 5th, 2013 07:02 pm (UTC)
And yet, curiously, other developed countries are able to provide similar health care for about half the cost per capita. And I can pretty much guarantee one will not be charged $3,000 for an ambulance ride nor $3,000 a day for use of a crib elsewhere.
Apr. 5th, 2013 10:26 pm (UTC)
Alright, let's play your game. What country is your gold standard?
Apr. 25th, 2013 10:12 pm (UTC)
Dave, I've noticed that you're temper is getting way out of control. What I posted wasn't meant to offend in anyway; it's just how I feel about the outrageous and blasphomous prices this country charges for health care. I know the health workers at hospitals aren't the ones getting filthy rich, but I do know some people are.

Seems like you're always insulting me beyond terrible and out of control. Hope you go get anger management help as soon as possible! I forgive you and I won't delete you from my FList. If you feel you want to delete me, then sadly I say, go for it.
Apr. 26th, 2013 09:42 pm (UTC)
Was about to put some personal stuff here, but decided not to. Suffice it to say, I work in the healthcare industry in a billing capacity. I don't take home massive paychecks. I worked extremely hard just for the privilege of getting in the door to get my very small paycheck, and I continue to work extremely hard to keep them coming.

To see people go off about high prices when they don't have the first idea of what goes into those prices... yeah, I know what goes into those prices. I know how many claims get denied by payers, I know how many claims have to be reworked, I know the hours upon hours of phone calls to outsourced insurance representatives, some of whom think they're adjusters and will try to play the part. We do our absolute damnedest to get those very high prices paid by the insurers, who in turn do their best to not pay those very high prices, which drives the prices up further.

I take it as a personal affront when people complain and demand reform, because it's like they're complaining about me. All I've done is tried to get their claim through quickly and with minimal disruption to their care.
Apr. 25th, 2013 11:58 pm (UTC)
I feel exactly as you do about an ambulance!

The only thing we can do is to try and eat as healthy as possible, and be as active as possible.
Apr. 2nd, 2013 07:34 pm (UTC)
I'm so glad to hear he's doing better!! I tend to forget to check LJ but I do check it now and then. I can't imagine the stress of having that baby there, it's hard enough when one of them gets sick and has to go to the doctor! The bills are incredible, yeap..I remember Silvia going to the ER once during her pregnancy with Andrew. Exhaustion, she was ok, but they gave her one aspirin and charge $125 for it. Sigh.
Apr. 4th, 2013 08:50 am (UTC)
I just learned about your nephew. Sorry to hear about him. I will say some prayers for him.

The medical racket is yet another way to bleed people dry.
Apr. 25th, 2013 10:16 pm (UTC)
I know it was such a long time ago I posted about my baby nephew. He is doing wonderfully!

I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart for you prayers!
Apr. 5th, 2013 07:03 pm (UTC)
Glad to learn that your nephew is home and safe with family!
Apr. 25th, 2013 11:39 pm (UTC)
Thank you so much, mcoletti. I really appreciate you well wishes!
Apr. 6th, 2013 05:28 am (UTC)
I am Glad that your nephew is doing better Sunshine and the bills are never good news but they will take care of themselves one way or another… the important thing is your nephew
Apr. 25th, 2013 10:17 pm (UTC)
Thank you so much for you concern over my nephew!

And yes, you and I must go dancing! :o)
Apr. 26th, 2013 07:39 am (UTC)
anytime Sunshine ;)
Apr. 8th, 2013 06:56 am (UTC)
Great news!
How wonderful to hear he's okey! ...and around Easter! Well, that made me celebrate even more! (sorry for replying late)
Apr. 25th, 2013 11:50 pm (UTC)
Re: Great news!
And I'm sorry to be so late also, Dear One, in thanking you for your prayers!
Apr. 10th, 2013 03:23 pm (UTC)
How is he doing now?

As I've griped the burden of the healthcare cost on the average family has gotten worse the past few years, I believe its supposed to make us more resposible about what options we chose.

It truly sucks.
Apr. 25th, 2013 10:56 pm (UTC)
You'd never believe the baby rolly polly had ever been so seriously sick! :o) Thank you for caring, Sweet Pie!

It is unbelievable what the cost of healthcare is. I feel so sad for those who work hard and don't have health insurance!
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