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Welfare rant

The ones, who have suffered tremendously, due to the economical crisis, are both the middle class who are barely hanging by a thread to their jobs, and the middle class who have lost their jobs.

I believe that the very rich and very poor have not suffered one iota throughout this terrible recession.

Those who have never worked a day in their lives, and have been on welfare for years are the ones who have never had to worry about health insurance, college, a roof over their heads, or food to eat. The more children they have, the more they get. Everything they get is free, or very close to free.

When I go to the grocery store, I can spot IMMEDIATELY the ones on food stamps, because it is obvious by the contents of their grocery carts.

My question is, why on earth are they permitted to buy sodas, candies, and sweet bakery items? And why are they given so much to buy groceries? And why does free lunch exist?

I came from what is considered a large family (four brothers and myself), and my parents couldn’t afford paying for our school lunches, and although my parents were barely making it financially, we didn’t qualify for free lunch. Mom would place in a paper sack peanut butter, tuna, or baloney sandwiches, an apple. For breakfast, Mom would make scrambled eggs by adding a couple of crumpled up bread into it. We ate lots of spaghetti, chili beans, and whatever else was an inexpensive meal. She’d make us muffins or cupcakes as a treat.

I’m not sure, but I believe they also get free cell phones, maybe even free internet access.

It makes me sick to my stomach to see so much abuse. Something is VERY wrong with this system!

As for my political views, they are both democrat and republican.


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Dec. 1st, 2011 12:13 am (UTC)
Abuse of the welfare system has always been around. The government knows this, but all of the care comes around because of a child born in to it. All welfare, food stamps, etc. is primarily for a child. And that's the whole point. They care about a child born in to this. Not so much the family. The hope is with this help they (the child) will be nourished enough to be able to fend for himself at 18. The poor know how to work the system. They don't have to work. They watch the child along with the live in boyfriend/girlfriend what have you. Their health care is free. A child can't choose his parents. So the government is there for him. That system will never change.

The rich get a little welfare too. Corporations are propped up and helped by the government. Why? A strong corporation gives the illusion the US is strong (to the rest of the world) That's important. So big corporations (even if they're failing) are protected. That won't change either. So no matter if you're a Democrat or a Republican, the government will be in your lives for better or worse.

Politically I'm libertarian. I hate the intrusion of the government, but I know just because you had a baby, that does not make you a fit parent. I know we have to have roads, police, firefighters, etc. So I'm realistic.
Dec. 1st, 2011 12:54 am (UTC)
Yes, it’s for the welfare of the children, and for this reason these women continue having more and more babies so they can get more, plus stay on the system as long as they can. If these women had to save money to pay the hospital and doctor to have a baby, I’m sure they’d think twice before getting pregnant on purpose. The way things are now, it only costs them a few bucks to give birth, and as for raising that baby to the age of 18, the cost was just about free.

I see so much abuse. I have a cousin who has had 7 children from 7 different men. Not only are we the tax payers paying for her and her kids to breath the same air we breath, but also the lazy bum who isn’t suppose to live with her. By and by, these 7 kids are already grown adults, and have oodles of kids of their own. Needless to say, all the 7 kids took off where mama left off, and are living off the system, also.

I agree, the rich are also on welfare by getting all the freebies by not paying their fair share of taxes.

We the middle class are screwed!
Can you believe this? - uglyface2 - Dec. 1st, 2011 02:33 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - nebris - Dec. 1st, 2011 02:50 am (UTC) - Expand
Re: realistic... - girlspell - Dec. 1st, 2011 01:38 am (UTC) - Expand
Re: realistic... - playgirl - Dec. 1st, 2011 03:56 am (UTC) - Expand
Dec. 1st, 2011 01:06 am (UTC)
I'm on SSI. I get $830 a month. It had been $907 back in Jan '09, but they've been cutting. An across the board 3.6% COLA is scheduled for this Jan. SSI recipients are allowed to make $65 a month before they start cutting the check. They use a 2 to 1 ratio; every dollar over $65 cuts the check by fifty cents.

MediCal pays for my meds [psyche and diabetes]. There is now a limit of the number of doctor visits, but I only need two or three a year. We did have adult dental, but that was revoked two years ago. Extractions are still covered as 'surgery'.

The system is intrusive and contradictory. Honest workers will explain that one has to lie to get anywhere. And politics changes the requirements constantly.

Given the endemic criminal behavior of The Political and Financial Class in this country and the massive damage it has caused, it is rank hypocrisy to demand that the poor be held to a higher standard.

Dec. 1st, 2011 01:36 am (UTC)
Let me look at the video and then I'll comment.
(no subject) - playgirl - Dec. 1st, 2011 03:54 am (UTC) - Expand
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Dec. 1st, 2011 03:52 am (UTC)
not fair at all...
I believe you misunderstood my post. I’m not stereotyping at all. The ones I speak of are those who, like my cousin, have never worked a day in their lives yet continue to suck the system by having as many children (SEVEN) as possible. Her children are adults now, and are having oodles of kids themselves. Just as an example, one of her son’s already has SEVEN!!

If they sneeze once too often, off they go to the doctor. They freely go for dental work, also. So many middle class families don’t have these luxuries. It isn’t fair. If things continue as they are for the middle class, we are the ones who will be the truly poor ones, because we will not qualify for any help, because we may own homes, or have a little savings in IRA’s or whatever. I myself am barely hanging by a thread to keep my job. If I lose it, I won’t qualify for any help, therefore, I and all those depending on me, grandpa, and about 30 dogs and cats will not only come close to starvation but we’ll be living out in the streets.

As for the amount of food stamps they get, I can tell it’s quite a lot, because the contents of their grocery carts don’t compare with mine. I see long lines at the bakery section within the store, and they don’t just buy a couple of donuts or whatever, but giant bags of the stuff.

I thank God that Welfare exists, but only for those who work and try to make ends meet, but find it impossible to feed her kids. Welfare is supposed to be a temporary help for those who lost their jobs. The handicap and those who suddenly got sick and can’t work anymore should also get the help for always.

Those that have made Welfare a career are the ones that upset me to no end.

All you need in this state is a utility bill and you get all the freebies – housing, utilities, and I’m pretty sure they get free cell phones. These are people who are healthier than a horse.

Another reason I feel free school lunch should be stopped for everyone is because I believe the GOP is trying to make pizza a vegetable, which I feel is unhealthy. Just taking a sandwich and a fruit to school like I and my brothers did might be a lot healthier than eating the school food.

I’m glad you expressed your feelings, and don’t worry for making you reply long. I also make long posts and comments. :o)

Oh, and may God help us all against those damn FAT CATS!
Re: not fair at all... - harfafnor - Dec. 1st, 2011 04:33 am (UTC) - Expand
Re: not fair at all... - playgirl - Dec. 1st, 2011 07:34 am (UTC) - Expand
Dec. 1st, 2011 03:37 am (UTC)
Because if they weren't allowed to buy such things, the food lobbyists would push for it.

Dec. 1st, 2011 07:17 am (UTC)
The food lobbyists would push for it?
(no subject) - tigron_x - Dec. 1st, 2011 08:32 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - playgirl - Dec. 9th, 2011 08:05 pm (UTC) - Expand
Dec. 1st, 2011 05:58 am (UTC)
Where is your Heart sunshine. You know that lots of people are having a real hard time making it now days and if it was not for the free lunch program, a lot of kids would go with out any food. around here we even extended it to summer so at lest the kids would get one good meal a day it makes me sick to see even one kid go hungry but thanks to some real greedy and selfish people there is just not one but many. So thank God for free lunches here many are not.
Dec. 1st, 2011 07:27 am (UTC)
My heart is still in the right place, moon.

I know there are millions hurting right now due to the recession. I'm not talking about them, because what's happened with our economy is not there fault or mine. I'm talking about those who have never worked a day in their lives and continue to live off the system by having as many babies as possible.

The sick, the elderly, and those who have lost their jobs are the ones I feel have all the right to get help. I'm not immuned either, because I could very well lose my job and if that were to ever happen, I sure would appreciate government help to survive.

As for the free lunches, the GOP wants pizza to take the place of a vegetable, and I feel that is not healthy for kids at all. I feel taking a lunch from home would be much healthier.
(no subject) - donchep - Dec. 2nd, 2011 01:38 am (UTC) - Expand
Dec. 1st, 2011 06:00 am (UTC)
I spent most of my childhood growing up on welfare.
I got free school dinner tickets, vouchers for school uniform and the free dental and healthcare all children get in the UK.
My mum had 3 kids, she got £12 for me, £10 for my sister and £8 for my brother each week. The same amount that any person got for their children, reguardless of income.
My parents (particularly my father) didn't always spend the money wisely, a lot of it went on alcohol and cigarettes. Just another charming side-effect of having an alcoholic father. Every time they'd try to force him to work he'd get fired and we'd be left another month with no money until the benefits came through again.
It wasn't much fun going to school in secondhand women's trousers, with an elastic band around my shoe, or eating jam sandwiches for tea. Free school dinners were the best meal we had! I remember being so excited when we first qualified for them because I'd never eaten pizza or fish before. It was shameful too though, I hated my horrible orange tickets and being doled out them after all the other kids handed over their little brown packets of money to the teacher. I was bullied quite a bit for it. I then ended up selling my tickets for 50p to the richer kids, going without lunch and saving up to buy less embarrassing school uniform.
I suppose my point is that you can't punish the parents without punishing the kids too and they're already punished enough. You've also got to think how crap a child's life must have been for them to see living on welfare as an attractive option.
I'll admit I don't know much about this issue in the US but those on welfare are certainly not better off here. People here get no free cell phones, no internet access and the only time a utility bill is "paid" is £15 for heating for each week when the temperature does not rise above freezing. This saves the government money because it reduces the burden on the National Health Service from the illnesses and deaths associated with the cold.
Dec. 1st, 2011 11:46 pm (UTC)
I find absolutely nothing wrong with families being on welfare due to illness or because they lost their job, or when families income isn't enough. The ones speak of in this post are those, and there are way too many, will not work because they don't want to, and receive housing, food, health care, education. There are women who get pregnant on purpose, over and over again so they can get more and more out of the system. Most of the working class can't see a doctor because they can't afford to buy insurance. Sweet Pie, these are the ones I've expressed my feelings on in this post.

The way things are going economically wise, I am in danger of losing my own job, and if this happens, I'll surely apply for help. There's no shame in that for me or anyone else.

If I offended you or anyone else in some way with the post, please forgive me, because those were never my intensions.
(no subject) - samarium75 - Dec. 3rd, 2011 06:32 pm (UTC) - Expand
Dec. 1st, 2011 12:31 pm (UTC)
Tear down the machine...not the people. The people are victims of the world we've created.
Dec. 1st, 2011 11:27 pm (UTC)
I've started tearing down the machine in my recent post, but I still stand firm in what I have written here, where I torn down those women who keep having baby after baby so the system will support them into adulthood. These people have made the welfare system a family tradition, where their childern and the children of those children continue not working a day in their lives so the system, we the tax payers, continue paying for their livelihood forever and ever.

I don't want you to ever be angry at me; it's just that this is the way I see it, amor.

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Dec. 1st, 2011 11:21 pm (UTC)
I'm not generalizing. It's the ones who from generation to generation abuse the system by having as many babies as possible, and never working a day in their lives.

I'm glad you're still on LJ. :o)
Dec. 1st, 2011 08:31 pm (UTC)
Amen! I agree with all you have said.
Although I have been eligible for food stamps twice in my life, both times when I was in the military, I never applied for them. I felt they were for people who truly needed them.

Sometimes I wonder if I would feel the same way today if I was eligible.
Dec. 1st, 2011 11:33 pm (UTC)
Re: Amen! I agree with all you have said.
Finally you agree with me on something! :o)

Food stamps are for people who truly need them, especially now with so very many of them having lost their jobs due to the economy. The ones that anger me are the ones who never, ever worked, even when the economy was good, and continue to be on welfare forever and ever.

If I should ever get to the point that I'm eligible, and it's a great possibility should I lose my job, I surely will apply for them.
Dec. 5th, 2011 12:31 am (UTC)
The welfsre system was crafted and molded to create a dependant class who would vote for Democrates. Republicans prefer welfare for their buusnuisse buddies in the form of tax breaks. Both like welfare and hate the other party's welfare.
Dec. 9th, 2011 07:48 pm (UTC)
I agree with everything you wrote. And yes, the welfare people get free cell phones and service. It is advertised quite often on TV :/
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