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Immigration Reform - Fox, Bush, and Mexico

Many Americans are not willing to take these menial jobs because financially, it is impossible to make it. The pathetic minimum wage can not pay for our bills, such as food, rent/house payment, property taxes, car payments, gasoline, car insurance, outrageous utility bills, health care, day care, clothes, and the list goes on.

BUT, there are still many of us who must have a full-time job, as well as a part-time job. There are many of us who will take whatever job we can, may it be washing dishes, waitressing, cashiering or flapping hamburgers. But it has become close to impossible to get these types of jobs. As for assembly lines in the U.S. they have become non-existent because ALL the factories have gone across the border as "maquilladoras." There are many of Americans who don't have degrees yet, and many who will never have them. BUT, in a pathetic way, be grateful because the maquilladoras are in Mexico because alot of the money the workers from Mexico earn in these factories, come to shop in the U.S. What's happening now is that these fat rich Americans that moved their companies to Mexico, are still not satisfied in paying the disgraceful wages to the Mexicans. They're taking there companies overseas to the Asian companies where they will pay pennies to their workers. And guess what? you, American citizen will never see a penny of it being spent here in the U.S.A.

Take truck drivers, they have been the backbone of this country since the rigs were invented. Many truck drivers could make a decent living for their families. NOT ANYMORE. Was it Clinton who opened the flood gates with Nafta? Truck divers from Mexico could only go to a certain point in the U.S. NOW, President Bush has opened those gates worldwide. The border cities are a massacre now, because the oodles of never ending rigs pass the international bridge and onto the streets and highways. The destruction to our highways are constantly seen. Who pays for the repairs? THE TAX PAYERS! I have seen rigs with Mexico license plates go at high speeds and in a most reckless manner down the freeways. If one of these rigs should crash and we are maimed or cause the death of some innocent car driver, who is going to pay the hospital bills or pay that person who will not be able to work anymore because of his sudden handicap?

There are many Americans who make their living as construction workers, but now they can't get jobs because illegals are paid the minimum by employers.

It is very true that Americans prefer not to have the migrant farmworkers job, but then too, the migrant farmworkers should stop complaining about injustic manner they are treated. PERIOD! They have it much better than if they were working and living back in Mexico, where the lucky ones work in American owned sweat factories, working about 10 hrs per day and getting paid approximately $4.00 for the day = and approximately $30.00 per week. They endure the worst injustices in Mexico by their employees and they can't complain whatsoever, much less file suits.

As for Mexico educating their children, there's a song that goes something like this: Las letras no entran cuando se tiene hambre, which means, The studies and lectures don't enter when there's hunger. How can children go to school, when they are hungry, when they themselves must go out into the streets and help the family financially in order to eat. There are countless men without legs, dragging themselves along the streets. WHY? Because they tried to catch moving trains and slipped. They were trying to go to the U.S. to find jobs. Many of them made it, but were somehow accidently locked in the boxcars, to suffocate and die. WHY? Because Mexico has NOTHING to offer. Mexico is a crying shame, and how sad because Mexico is among the richest in natural resources in the world.

These devastations have been continuous and relentless, since the days of Don Porfirio Diaz. Mexico has been robbed by its rich and the poor have paid the price. How is it possible that President Fox can't control "Los Pinos?" He and his cabinet have the AUTHORITY. Fox has the power to make the laws. If he doesn't, then why the hell does Mexico have a President to begin with?

He should start to think seriously for the salvation of his country and not for himself. Mexico is the richest of most nations, but the continuous theft has left it in ruins.

Has he no shame that the world knows what I have brought about here? If I were Fox, I'd try to find the nearest hole and hide in it, instead of gallivanting in the affairs of the United States of America.

Believe me, I love MY Mexican people, how could I not, my mother is Mexican and Spanish. My greatest hopes and dreams are that someday, Mexico will have a president who really cares about his people by getting off his butt and WORKING for a SOLUTION, instead of taking ALL of Mexico's money, after he has finished his 6 year term, and heading for the Swiss banks and leaving the poor even poorer. What a crying shame!

By and by, for those of you who want GUN CONTROL here in the America, look and REALLY STUDY those countries who have taken away the right to bare arms from its citizens. If you REALLY study it and see EXACTLY what happens to the people of those countries, you WILL FIGHT tooth and nail for your RIGHT TO BARE ARMS!!!!!

JOIN the U.S. Army
Los Benificios del U.S. Army
"The Right Of The People To Keep and
Bear Arms, Shall Not Be infringed."



( 24 comments — Leave a comment )
Nov. 13th, 2004 01:15 am (UTC)
Second to last paragraph: Politically and economically, I am not sure what President Fox can do to strengthen Mexico's economy in a world where movement towards economic integration are something that the people with the movies are all pushing towards.

Last paragraph: Granted, dentistry in the UK is treated as a joke, but that is more due to the lack of dentists than it is gun ownership rights.
Nov. 13th, 2004 01:16 am (UTC)
It is a bit to late to try going with this as a joke, but what is the word for doctors who specialize in finger and toe nails?
Nov. 13th, 2004 06:17 am (UTC)
The name is Puchi Patas!
Nov. 13th, 2004 01:37 am (UTC)
People may complain in USA about the gap between the wealthy elite and the average person but this gap is nothing compared to the one which exists in Mexico.

It is a bit hard for me to wrap my mind around the duality that I see in Mexico. You have glitzy chic areas like Cancun which seem to perhaps be the seat of wealth in the country and contrasted to other cities in which poverty is the way of life.

I wager til Mexico has cleaned up it's act that we will continue to have problems with our southern neighbor. Anytime a country has a neighbor in distress the problem spreads farther than the borders.
Nov. 13th, 2004 06:49 am (UTC)
I have been to Acapulco and Puerto Vallarta and their beauty is breathtaking. I have enjoyed tremendously Chihuahua and Guadalajara. Mexico City is another beautiful place. I recently spent a couple of days in Chihuahua. The hotels are as glitzy as in the movies. I went to the best restuarants and order dishes that only the rich can afford in the U.S. The mixed drinks and wine would have cost an arm and a leg in the U.S. I'll give you an example of the prices over there: The steak and lobster with all the fix'ens and mixed drinks were a mere $20.00! The hotel's cost, I won't tell you 'cause you won't believe it. The only thing that's very expensive there is renting a car.

The fruit, such as oranges, are the juicest, sweetest and most delicious oranges in the world.

Most people don't realize that Mexico has countless of filthy rich people, just as it has its multitude of the poorest of the poor. Middle class? It's just about non-existant.

Mexico has so much potential; it only needs a leader to give birth to that incredible potential.
Nov. 13th, 2004 01:42 am (UTC)
Oh I forgot to say Amen to the right to arms.

I had a chance to stay a few months in Australia which has some extremely stringent laws governing weapons (even a butter knife would be illegal in public). And I can say that it works fine for them, they are a much more quiet and laid back people, same for Europe.

Something about America and our society requires guns. First of all our cops are to slow to react in my town for instance, they put the onus on the person to defend their own property and house, heck it has taken an hour for a cop to respond (when they did respond) to a call in my sleepy town of 31,000. I see every lawful respectable gun owner as being of great assistance to the police by keeping their family and land safe.
Nov. 13th, 2004 07:00 am (UTC)
Among my most prized possessions (aside from Mickey and Jewely, my poodles) are my 2 guns and rifle. They are registered, I'm a responsible gun owner and I'm an expert shooter. I feel very safe in my home, knowing that I have a gun at arms reach, for my protection from the FOOL who would ever make the "fatal" mistake to enter my house.

And yes, Amen to the right to arms!
Nov. 14th, 2004 07:24 am (UTC)
Gun owning chix are even sexier lol
Nov. 15th, 2004 04:36 pm (UTC)
You've just been
hugged and kissed!
Nov. 15th, 2004 06:43 pm (UTC)
Right back at you ;]
Nov. 13th, 2004 02:47 am (UTC)
I feel the same. However, being illegal does not deserve unjust treatment. Exactly THAT being drilled in to their heads is what keeps a person down and without dignity.

While, yes, Mr. Fox is a pce of shit, so are those who do business with him. But what does that say about us thoug? Do Americans simply not want to understand the desperation that drives so many people to risk their lives? The U.S. needs to acknowledge that programs such as NAFTA were not effective in deterring illegal immigration to the U.S. To add insult to injury, not only was the program not effective, it left Mexico along with other countries with increased pollution levels and the forcing of communities to house foreign toxic waste dumps because of a NAFTA “investor rights” clause protecting transnational corporations against local people.

It is all written in ambiguous, innocuous-sounding prose that makes clever attorneys rich, the chapter spells out terms under which investors (i.e., multinational corporations) can be compensated for losses incurred by expropriation — government action.

Apparently, better for U.S. citizens to focus on satisfying their consumption desires, rather than the ultimate price they - and so many others that are not U.S. citizens - will pay in doing so.

No one can force the U.S. to apply its domestic policies (i.e. Constitution, Bill of Rights) to foreign relations. The responsibility to enforce constitutional law in our foreign affairs falls upon us, the citizens of the U.S. It is just to practice what is preached. If the U.S. is to be a model of what democracy should be, it should provide the same example in dealings abroad. The xenophobic paranoia perpetuated by the media and anti-immigrant groups in the U.S. is detrimental to our image. We elect the people that tend to this countries issues, so is it to speculate that to an extent, we are apathetic, or in denial to the severity of these matters? Are we accomplices in the deaths of those who seek the "American Dream?” Is it not the identical dream the descendants, of those who are not Native Americans, followed to reach these shores?

We are partly responsible, we are the company we keep.

Nov. 13th, 2004 06:22 am (UTC)
Cris, what you have expressed is very thought provoking. Thank you!
Nov. 13th, 2004 03:04 am (UTC)
It is never ok to treat someone in an unjust matter regardless of their status in this country. That kind of attitude is what leads to human rights abuses like those that occurred in El Salvador in the 80's, Chile in the 70's and Abu Ghraib in the current century. All humans should be treated with a certain amount of respect and dignity. Period. We signed the Declaration of Human Rights in 1945 therefore pretending that we don't have to abide byt the agreements made in that document is ridiculous and a denigration of everything this country stands for.

As for the jobs being sent overseas, well I can't argue with that. It sucks and it's hard but you know what? In this day and age, we Americans are well aware that those jobs are no longer profitable in this day and age so it's time to start dealing with the reality of that. This is no longer a society that relies heavily on unskilled labor therefore we must start striving for more. Why else do you think I went to college and made sure I had skills that didn't require me to worki in a factory? And no, I'm not rich. I made sure to work my ass off and got scholarships as well as applied for loans which I have recently paid off. The money is out there if you just look for it and no it's not just there for minoritites. I know for a fact that there are scholarships for those of Irish descent, left handed people and Target offers scholarships to any person with a B average! Don't tell me that the averge person can't get an education because that's just bull.

And as a side note because I'm just a stickler for grammar/spelling, it's the right to bear arms not "bare arms" which makes it sound like the right to wear sleeveless shirts. I know, I know, that's so minor and we all know what you meant but humor me. I'm a little OCD about that.
Nov. 13th, 2004 05:18 am (UTC)
Marie, I value your opinions. Although, I've know you for a little while through our journals, I've grown to admire you and I've learned much from an intelligent lovely gal like yourself!

The opportunity is here for those who wish to grasp it, but many don't for whatever legitimate reason they may have.

I came from parents who felt that when we graduated from high school, it was time to find a job and leave home. It may sound harsh to many, but it was the best thing that ever happened to us because we all became totally independent. I had been a run of the mill student. A scholarship? Forget it! Money? I had nothing.

I worked in hamburger joints; I worked as a waitress and had to have a roommate in order to come up with the rent. I woke up one morning and realized that I only existed. I joined the U.S. Army and for once in my life I thanked God for being the only girl amongst 4 burly brothers or I wouldn't have made it through Boot Camp. What I'm trying to say here is that because of the Army, I was able to buy my own home. College? The Army pays for it. Money? I have a so-so job and I have a website which thankfully produces the entire monthly payments for my home. My goal is to someday become a nurse. I don't know if I'll ever rich that goal. Thank God I live in America, the land of opportunity! And thank God, my parents used tough love with their kids. Because of this, we didn't turn out to be delicate pieces of tissue paper.

The Army was my PERSONAL way for survival. The Army made me so tough that I DO NOT need a man in my life for my survival. (Just my 2 toy poodles!)

Of course, ALL human beings should be treated with dignity. What I tried to express was the fact that Mexico is one country where they are not.

The beauty of Mexico is mind-boggling. Most Americans cannot even fathom this fact. Is it possible that someday, a truly caring man will become president of that country and make drastic changes for the best for its people? Mexicans are hard workers. Will the day ever come when they can work for a decent wage with benefits so they won't have to risk their lives to cross the border and travel to an unknown land to do what they do best, work!?

All in all, I love Mexico and I want the best for Mexico. I love America and I'll give my life for America!

Bare, Bear. My info page shows BEAR! The only excuse I can give you is that since I compete in Top Cam Sites, I see a lot of bare assess! I suppose the "bare" was some Freudian Slip in my right to "bare" arms thingy! Heh heh... Thanks for bringing it to my attention! How embarrassing!

Nov. 13th, 2004 05:49 pm (UTC)
And I admire you for what you've done with your life. It's not easy being on our own.

When I've spoken with people from other ocuntries who have come here many of them say the same thing. There is opporunity here you simply have to work for it. To be honest, in the people I worked with at my old job I have to say that many of the immigrants I worked with, whether undocumented or not, were undustrious and willing to do whatever it took to make money. That included construction, cleaning houses, selling food, whatever. The Americans I worked with on the other hand could often be pathetic. They used their disability as an excuse to do nothing because they knew they had a cushion. They had their Social Security and disability and therefore had no desire to contribute anything to society in any meaningful way. I see this alot in my fellow Americans and therefore it always irritates me when people complain about immigrants taking "our" jobs. Yes some Americans will do whatever it takes to make it regardless. But too many consider themselves above it all and would never dream of cleaning a person's house for money or working out in the hot sun all day for measly minimum wages.

And as for Mexico, well I couldn't even tell you what must be done. Yes, hopefully someday they will do better for their people but until that day, well, we will continue to see people fleeing a hopeless economic situation and we should see to it that we do not dehumanize them enough to say that they should not complain when they are treated unjustly in this country of all countries simply because they don't have a laminated card.

Nov. 14th, 2004 07:35 pm (UTC)
I mean it Marie, how the hell did you become so wise?!!

Thank you!
Nov. 14th, 2004 08:52 pm (UTC)
Id on't know that 'm wise but I've worked with people of all kinds and you learn a lot about the human condition that way.
Nov. 14th, 2004 08:52 pm (UTC)
And obviously I'm a lousy typist! *L*
Nov. 13th, 2004 07:25 am (UTC)
I agree with almost everything you said. I do feel the need to add two things though. One, not every company that moves to Asia (or South America) over Mexico does it for cheaper labor. Many of hese companies are into elecronics or automotive, and the simple fact is taht Asian factories are much more productive. Some (though not the majority) of these countries will move to Asia and pay workers more because they still reap a huge gain with the increased productivity of those workers.
Seconly, Sadly some companies, and even whole industries have had o move out of the US because of our workers. For example, before they shut down one of the GM plants in my city, the Average worker with 10 years tenure was making over 90k. That was more than many of the GM designer team and engineers were making. We have some of the most expensive labor on the planet here in the US and some companies simply can't survive paying that sort of cst to every worker.
However, yes I do agree that greed is the driving factor for most moves. Ia lso think Mexico is a total mess, and if I saw a way for the US to be able to clean it up, I would say move in and do it tommarrow. Unfortuneately, I jsut dont see a way to clean it up other than by slow political and ecconomic reform.
Nov. 13th, 2004 05:36 pm (UTC)
Your last bit about not finding a solution with MX, is my frustration exactly.
But if the US has its hand in other countries b/c they are corrupt - well what about MX??
Why not try to stick our hands in there? Or why not try to take busniess from, until MX starts doing better by its people?
It is themost basic of tactics that we even teach to children.

If you are not going to do things right then you will not be allowed to play with anyone.

I have to stop and think sometimes about how the US is trying to come up with something to "fix" this immigrant problem, but there isn't talk in making MX responsible for its people being forced to abandon it.
Nov. 13th, 2004 05:48 pm (UTC)
We could very easily topple the Mexican government. The problem is policing it afterward. It is too big to really patrol and there are too many druglords and corrupt military and police down there. If we weren't already committed to two wars and and several peacekeeping opperations, and if we could get help from others, it would be more feasible. I really want to see a really good government in mexico clean it up.
Nov. 13th, 2004 07:25 pm (UTC)
Not bc I am part MX but with so much potential in that country and in many others, WE along with them could do so much more good than evil.
Nov. 14th, 2004 07:00 am (UTC)
The corruption is totally out of hand, it's been going on for too long a time. It would take a miracle for the country to establish the kind of government it deserves.

What I find most disturbing is the fact that over 400 girls have been murdered and they do nothing to try to stop it. Juarez is a small city with over 2 million people. It is most apparent that there's a few serial killers in there midst, but they do nothing to solve the problem.

This fact is what angers me most, that Fox has never mentioned a word to the media about it.
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