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Survival of the Fittist - Space Travel

I honestly believe the Republican Party will pick up where Bush and Cheney left off, and that is promoting on a much bigger scale Social Darwinism - survival of the fittest. The middle class is quickly becoming obsolete, while the super wealthy are eating huge chunks from the hog.

Because of my warped up wicked mind, one of the many things I’m against is for my tax dollars going for is space travel exploration. Why? Because the only ones who will someday have the ROCKET $ fare to go to the moon, will be the super wealthy and their families. In fact, I believe there are already future plans for an exodus of these rich blood sucking money mongers to move up stairs when they’ve completed making this planet earth uninhabitable!

Have I gone insane?


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Dec. 3rd, 2010 10:42 pm (UTC)
maybe not totally but you are close. Please look up Social Darwinism, and read exactly what it says then look closely at those in the Republican Party who have not been sucked in by the progressives and the Conservatives who are trying to return to the days of John Kennedy, Ronald Reagan and the concept of a Republic as was first seen by Franklin.

Then look at the Jackasses who Obama has as advisors. Radicals, Socialists, Communists, Terrorists and other Union thugs. Then tell me who is closer to Darwinism.

The "Space Race" is an important part of the U.S. It was the desire to reach out that gave me Noumex that saved my ass as a Firefighter, it gave us Kevlar who protects our Police and Military. There are so many things that we use every day that NASA research has come up with. Hook and loop or commonly called VELCRO. just to name a few.

There are a lot of other places to save money NASA is not one of them, unless you are talking about NASA's new job according to OBAMA to find a way to get the rag heads more involved in Space Exploration. Obama wants to ensure that Sharia Law is present at the Moon Station and the Space Station so they can send up a pantie bomber to vaporize it.
Dec. 3rd, 2010 11:07 pm (UTC)
Oh daddy!
Close? Hah!

Survival of the Fittest means: Let the rich get richer, and the middle working class die! We the middle class are absolutely fit for the super rich, but not for long. They are sucking all the blood $ out of us, and destroying our earth so they can get even richer. Assholes!

As for future space travel, don’t worry your handsome face at all, ‘cuz you nor your future generations will ever be among those who will enjoy the fruits of yours or my labors!

Daddy, when will you see that the Republican Party is ONLY for the rich, and now for folks like us who work like dogs to survive?!!

Oh! Perhaps you missed a prior post I made today. I'd like to know your thoughts on it.

Edited at 2010-12-03 11:09 pm (UTC)
Re: Oh daddy! - daddy - Dec. 4th, 2010 01:17 am (UTC) - Expand
Demonstrably horseshit. - squidb0i - Dec. 4th, 2010 05:31 am (UTC) - Expand
Re: Demonstrably horseshit. - daddy - Dec. 4th, 2010 02:32 pm (UTC) - Expand
Re: Demonstrably horseshit. - squidb0i - Dec. 4th, 2010 05:26 pm (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - nebris - Dec. 4th, 2010 12:47 am (UTC) - Expand
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(no subject) - tigron_x - Dec. 4th, 2010 08:32 pm (UTC) - Expand
lol anarchy - squidb0i - Dec. 6th, 2010 03:34 am (UTC) - Expand
Re: lol anarchy - tigron_x - Dec. 6th, 2010 08:37 am (UTC) - Expand
We've been here before, Tig - nebris - Dec. 4th, 2010 07:24 am (UTC) - Expand
Re: We've been here before, Tig - tigron_x - Dec. 4th, 2010 01:31 pm (UTC) - Expand
Re: We've been here before, Tig - nebris - Dec. 4th, 2010 01:33 pm (UTC) - Expand
Re: We've been here before, Tig - tigron_x - Dec. 4th, 2010 01:55 pm (UTC) - Expand
Have a good day. I'm done talking to you. - nebris - Dec. 4th, 2010 03:05 pm (UTC) - Expand
Fixed it for you. - squidb0i - Dec. 4th, 2010 05:37 pm (UTC) - Expand
Re: Fixed it for you. - tigron_x - Dec. 4th, 2010 08:33 pm (UTC) - Expand
Re: Fixed it for you. - squidb0i - Dec. 6th, 2010 03:34 am (UTC) - Expand
Re: Fixed it for you. - tigron_x - Dec. 6th, 2010 08:20 am (UTC) - Expand
lol fiat currency - squidb0i - Dec. 4th, 2010 05:44 pm (UTC) - Expand
Re: lol fiat currency - tigron_x - Dec. 4th, 2010 08:55 pm (UTC) - Expand
So it's exactly as I said. - squidb0i - Dec. 6th, 2010 03:31 am (UTC) - Expand
Absolutely Not! - tigron_x - Dec. 6th, 2010 08:11 am (UTC) - Expand
Being an American no longer means much - nebris - Dec. 4th, 2010 04:00 pm (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - nebris - Dec. 7th, 2010 06:13 pm (UTC) - Expand
Dec. 3rd, 2010 11:41 pm (UTC)
Well, so far space exploration (at least government funded) has been pretty much limited to science research, and I'm all for that. There are some private companies working toward space tourism, but they are just that, private.

As far as the super rich going to orbit, the moon, or Mars...let them. But, it's going to be a long time before we've developed the technology to keep them safe and healthy for extended periods in any of these environments. The earth, even at the worst, is a much better place for people to live. So, given that, I doubt that there will be any mass exodus of the rich any time soon.

The much more realistic thing to happen is that some amazing discovery of minerals or such will be found and the poor, not the rich, will be the ones who end up living in these places.

Edited at 2010-12-03 11:42 pm (UTC)
Dec. 4th, 2010 12:49 am (UTC)
'Daddy' is soooo whacked out...
Dec. 4th, 2010 01:10 am (UTC)
Dec. 4th, 2010 01:19 am (UTC)
I Love this cartoon!!!! I had never seen it but it is soooooooo right!
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(no subject) - nebris - Dec. 4th, 2010 01:25 pm (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - tigron_x - Dec. 4th, 2010 01:48 pm (UTC) - Expand
then why are you talking to me? - nebris - Dec. 4th, 2010 03:06 pm (UTC) - Expand
Re: then why are you talking to me? - squidb0i - Dec. 4th, 2010 05:45 pm (UTC) - Expand
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Dec. 4th, 2010 10:13 am (UTC)
Not insane at all...
Dec. 8th, 2010 04:17 am (UTC)
Thank you darling!
Dec. 4th, 2010 03:50 pm (UTC)
"And now a general Collapse is upon us, Social, Economic, Physical, Spiritual, not the total breakdown that some predict – and even long for – but significant enough to be quite painful and possibly contain the seeds of a larger and more complete Collapse further down the line.

For our survival, we must do two practical things; get our heavy industry off of the surface of this planet, Gaea, our home, our Mother.. They are wounding Her. And we must reduce our overall numbers. We are suffocating Her. Trust me, if we do not do this ourselves, Gaea will do it for us. She has in fact already begun to do so.

The above ideologies [see link below], both Religious and Economic, are utterly incapable of first task, Industry Up, for reasons of Greed, Political Short Sightedness, and Theological Blindness. Such an undertaking would not generate the obscene profit margins that Capitalism requires, would demand a Focus and Effort beyond any Election Cycle, and fly in the face of all End Times Thinking.

The second task, Population Down, would encounter vast resistance across the board. “Whose population must go down?” would be the cry. Every nation, race, polity, etc would point their fingers at every other and scream “Racism!” or “Genocide!” or whatever they thought would apply or give them the most psycho-political traction."

Dec. 4th, 2010 09:21 pm (UTC)
If people had felt like you do, we would not have air travel.
Dec. 8th, 2010 04:07 am (UTC)
Perhaps that would be a good thing.

Since I live here on earth, I'd rather my tax dollars go into deep sea exploration instead.
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Dec. 8th, 2010 04:15 am (UTC)
I will because the name sounds interesting, and because you recommend it!
Dec. 5th, 2010 03:24 am (UTC)
Back to space exploration, it is important. Satellites and space exploration are the major backbone of communications and defense in these times. The internet, business, telcom, and most everything else our current lifestyle depends on satellites and space exploration. Even if you take only the few probes and missions we take to other planets and so forth, you are looking at a miniscule part of the budget. Claiming your money is wasted on it rather than doing other thing is not only wrong but also trying to claim you are dieting by refusing to eat the dinner mint that came when you paid the check for your large meal.

We are so far from being able to operate off the planet that it is not even possible at this point. The ISS has to resupplied with tons of food, water, and materials every month and they are about the only research that is going on. That's why I laughed when Bush talked about going to Mars. During the space race years, NASA's budget was between 3 and 5 percent of the total national budget. It hasn't been above 1% since 1974 (wait, my mistake, it hit 1.05% in '91 and 1.01% in '92 and '93) and has been in a downward trend since then to it's present .6% . Given the magnitude of actually putting people on Mars as opposed to the moon for a few days, there is no chance we will ever do it in our lifetime unless spending goes back up to that of the space race times. I hear people complaining what we spend on the ISS and wondering why that's not spent on goign to Mars. What they don't understand is that the technology isn't there to go to Mars. To go to Mars, we would have to ramp up spending to the ISS ten fold or put up our own space station doing even more just to begin with to figure out how to do tit. How to mine water on the Moon, protect out people from radiation, survive in space, repair what we send, etc. How to weld in space? That alone has been a major bit of research since Russia's first space walk and we're still figuring it out and probably only have a few hours of actual experience doing it. However, it's something we'll need to do real well if we want to go to Mars. Ya, nobody is going anyway any time soon and the money spent to do what we are doing is not enough to make a difference in the budget even if we cut it off completly.
Dec. 8th, 2010 04:14 am (UTC)
I now can see thanks to you. You never cease to amaze me, and I know you don't realize that you teach me so many things I never knew before.

The BP oil spill made me realize that we know nothing about the depth of our seas, and would like just as much exploration as is given to space exploration.

Thank you marc17.
Dec. 5th, 2010 10:12 am (UTC)
I'm no damned good at politics, so republican or democrat don't matter to me. As far as space travel and exploration goes, it seems in recent years that private space travel has been beating the shit out of NASA for innovation, cost, and turnaround time, without killing anyone (yet).

When the garage astronomer whips up a better Hubble telescope than the Hubble telescope is, then it's time for NASA to hang up the hat. I'm glad that private agencies are giving the industry a well-needed push or wakeup call. I guess I can't measure if (or when) my tax dollars have ever gone to a NASA project, and how I'd be so different if they didn't.

Nonetheless, in a race between government space travel and exploration, vs. private corporate space travel and exploration that's been going on over the past decade, I'll side with the private sector every time if they don't get greedy or stupid while doing it after they taste some moderate success.

Money's money. Spend all you want. You'll make more.

Dec. 7th, 2010 06:16 pm (UTC)
Thanx for the gift, buttercup.

Dec. 8th, 2010 04:14 am (UTC)
Welcome Sweet Pea!
Dec. 7th, 2010 06:25 pm (UTC)
Thoughts Upon Leaving Home [from July 20th, 2009]
“The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible.” ~Clarke's Second Law

~Forty years ago today, Neil Armstrong step off that ladder onto the surface of the Moon. I expect most of you know that by now, even if it's not being plastered all over the mass media, there are enough reminders.

I was watching that moment of course. I'd been a hard core consumer of Sci-Fi for a decade even at that point, six weeks before my seventeenth birthday, and this was in fact a Dream Come True.

Most seem rather blasé about the whole thing now. But keep in mind that at time it had only been forty two years since Lindbergh had flown the Atlantic. And in the intervening four decades, we as a species have not made a comparable journey.

This is not merely disappointing, it is distressing.

Becoming a spacefaring race is crucial to us as a species for reasons of survival and for both our Evolutionary and Spiritual growth. Yes, the Earth is our home, but all of you reading this have various names for those who never leave home and I suspect not one of them is complementary.

Which leads me to the following; the image of a prototype design for an FTL Star Ship.

Yes, it's a hypothetical design propelled by a hypothetical engine powered by a hypothetical power source, though some think that power source is not all that hypothetical. The important part is that actual design plans are beginning to emerge.

There is still plenty to do inside our Solar System:

~Build a space elevator

~Industrialize the Moon and mine it for Helium 3

~Create a zone for the relocation Earth's heavy industries

~Mine asteroids for that industry

~Build space habitats and even orbitals

~Terraform and colonize Mars

~And in the process, change ourselves as it's likely unmodified humans will not fare well in space for any length of time.

But the Solar System is also still our home and one day we will need to leave that home as well...and for that we need Star Ships.

I know this may seem pretty far fetched to many, so let me close this with another quote from Sir Arthur: “If we have learned one thing from the history of invention and discovery, it is that, in the long run - and often in the short one - the most daring prophecies seem laughably conservative.”

And Happy Anniversary, Apollo 11.

Edited at 2010-12-07 06:27 pm (UTC)
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