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Nancy Pelosi said today that the Bush Administration did not tell her or the members of Congres that they were commiting acts of torture through waterboarding. I tend to believe Pelosi. What makes me even more suspicious about the Republicans is, that they all keeps saying that this torture issue should be left alone, and we should just move forward. They should have told that to Cheney the draft dodger a long time ago.

If ever there was a time for a thorough investigation into who knew what, who did what, and who has lied about all this, this is the time. Gather all the involved which includes Pelosi, Cheney, Bush, etc., and put them under oath when asked some very serious questions.

To what extent did the horrors of torture go that the Republicans convinced President Obama not to show those pictures to the public? I still love Obama, but his decision not to make the pictures public really disappointed me. I believe we as Americans, have a right to see, and know exactly what went on behind the closed doors of that dungeon.

I wonder what the other draft dodger, Rush Limb Whatever, will have to say about all this.

I welcome your opinions on this controvercial topic, and I hope we can all get our point across without losing our heads completely. :o)


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May. 14th, 2009 10:42 pm (UTC)
I get the feeling we're going to uncover more stuff about the Bush/Cheney administration as time rolls on.
May. 14th, 2009 10:57 pm (UTC)
It saddens me beyond words
Why has Bush not uttered a peep, while Cheney as contineously been squawking, since this new administration came into office? I feel Cheney is afraid that all the sordid details of the past 8 years will soon be exposed before the world.

It saddens me beyond words, because I love this beloved country so much.
Re: It saddens me beyond words - nawlins_penguin - May. 15th, 2009 03:30 am (UTC) - Expand
Re: It saddens me beyond words - playgirl - May. 15th, 2009 04:50 am (UTC) - Expand
Re: It saddens me beyond words - daddy - May. 16th, 2009 03:44 am (UTC) - Expand
May. 15th, 2009 01:33 am (UTC)
Pelosi has admitted that she was at the briefing and others at the briefing are countering her claims.

Obama is also saying the torture issue should be put behind us. Do you believe him to be an evil Republican?

According to Obama himself, the pictures in question are not as bad as the ones already released. Do you doubt his word?

Obama says having those pictures made available will cause more hatred of America and Americans and make even bigger targets of our soldiers. Do you still want to see them knowing that it might kill more Americans?
May. 15th, 2009 02:07 am (UTC)
How convienient...
1. I got this part from Huffington Post, and I believe her. She's the one who wants some kind of commission so the truth can be proven. The Republicans want it all swept under the rug, so the country can move forward. How convienient!!

Pelosi told reporters that the administration officials only told her and those in a classified briefing in the fall of 2002 that they believed they had the legal authority to do so, based on Office of Legal Counsel memos which have recently been released by the Obama administration.

"In that or any other briefing...we were not, and I repeat, were not told that waterboarding or any of these other enhanced interrogation techniques were used," said Pelosi. "What they did tell us is that they had some legislative counsel...opinions that they could be used, but not that they would."

Pelosi said that the officials promised to inform Congress if they ever did waterboard a detainee, but never did so.

2. I adore Obama, and forgive him, because as Jesus Christ said, "Forgive them, for they know not what they do."

The pictures aren't as bad as the first? Then why hide them? Are we little children who must be sent to bed before some spooky movies comes on TV?!!

3. Those pictures, if made available will cause more hatred? Impossible! The pictures we've all seen already are HORRIFIC!!

Re: How convienient... - davev1968 - May. 15th, 2009 02:21 am (UTC) - Expand
Re: How convienient... - playgirl - May. 15th, 2009 02:50 am (UTC) - Expand
Fool. - uglyface2 - May. 15th, 2009 04:21 am (UTC) - Expand
Re: Fool. - playgirl - May. 15th, 2009 05:09 am (UTC) - Expand
Fool. AND a zealot. - uglyface2 - May. 15th, 2009 04:12 pm (UTC) - Expand
Re: Fool. AND a zealot. - playgirl - May. 16th, 2009 10:40 pm (UTC) - Expand
Re: Fool. AND a zealot. - uglyface2 - May. 17th, 2009 03:49 am (UTC) - Expand
Re: How convienient... - davev1968 - May. 15th, 2009 02:18 pm (UTC) - Expand
May. 15th, 2009 02:58 am (UTC)
The Bush administration was a cancer to our country, i'm thinking Obama is surprised and maybe a bit overwhelmed how deep and widespread it went.
I know the country will recover, unlike many politicians who claim to be so uber-American but spew nothing but hate at people who are trying to heal our country, i beleive in America and it's stronger than they think it is.
May. 15th, 2009 03:13 am (UTC)
land of the free
The Bush Administration was not only a cancer to our country, but to my very soul, and for some unknown reason, I lived in fear, the kind of fear, the kind of fear the Jewish people must have felt for Hitler. I give thanks to God Obama is now our President!

I also have faith that this country will survive, and will once again be the land of the free.
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Re: land of the free - tomcatshanger - May. 15th, 2009 05:28 am (UTC) - Expand
Re: land of the free - playgirl - May. 15th, 2009 06:31 am (UTC) - Expand
May. 15th, 2009 03:37 am (UTC)
While I believe the extent and degree of the "humanitarian" torture was sugar-coated for Congress, I think Speaker Pelosi needs to lower her tone. Understandably, if you were lied to, then you probably have a good reason to out a little frustration. I find her a little too noisy. No disrespect to her, I don't think picking fights over the previous administration's performance will get us anywhere. Let Cheney do that.
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May. 15th, 2009 07:06 am (UTC)
They all made me see the true light!
Yes Suh, there was a time when I had gone off the deep end (shudder!). That was when I used to watch Hannity, Bill-O, and the rest of the Fox clan. One day I accidently changed the channel to MSNBC, and saw, and heard for the first time Keith Olbermann, who is now the new love of my life, Rachel Maddow, and Chris Matthews.

Oh! And I mustn't forget, the Huffington Post, Politico, and of course, Moveon.ORG which I found on the web.

They all made me see the true light!
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Re: They all made me see the true light! - playgirl - May. 15th, 2009 07:19 am (UTC) - Expand
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Re: They all made me see the true light! - playgirl - May. 16th, 2009 10:26 pm (UTC) - Expand
May. 15th, 2009 06:59 am (UTC)
Right after 9-11, both Republicans and even Democrats were talking about how they should use any means to discover information from terrorist to prevent another attack on the US. The public supported their statements too cause no one really went ape shit over it in the media or the blogoshpere. It would not surprise me that Obama is trying to bury this cause he knows a lot of senior democrates he needs in congress and the senate would go down in flames if the torture stuff got aired out. Chaney is the kind of guy who would welcome going to prison if he could take down the Democrate party.
May. 15th, 2009 07:13 am (UTC)
Nah! Cheney is too rich, too comfortable, and too much a scarety cat to do that. Remember, this man who talks as if he were MILITARY savvy, was a draft dodger, as was that odious man, Rush Whatever!

I don't believe for a minute the Democrats had anything to do with any of it, and I'm sure everything will eventually come out. Could it be that President Obama was too shocked and dismayed by the pics he saw, that made him change his mind about releasing those photos?
May. 15th, 2009 02:13 pm (UTC)
*hugs you tight*
May. 16th, 2009 10:22 pm (UTC)
I sure needed that hug!!
(no subject) - ayoub - May. 17th, 2009 02:08 pm (UTC) - Expand
May. 16th, 2009 01:55 am (UTC)
Liar Liar
She is nothing but a Liar and each story is just another lie. People who believe her need to give a little more thought to what she is saying. Possible one of the worst examples of people who are nothing but (all about their own power) she may have to resign her post. Lets hope so.
May. 16th, 2009 10:25 pm (UTC)
Re: Liar Liar
Liar, liar pants on fire! How I loved that little phrase as a kid. I still do! :o)

We shall all find out the truth soon, and I'll bet you one of my beloved gumball machines that Pelosi is telling the truth!!
Re: Liar Liar - dlanor - May. 20th, 2009 03:51 pm (UTC) - Expand
Re: Liar Liar - playgirl - May. 21st, 2009 03:24 am (UTC) - Expand
May. 16th, 2009 03:18 am (UTC)
Geeez who pissed in your cherrios??
First off WHERE in the Hell do you get your information from?? IS this more billious bullshit from Move-on dot shit?

1. Chainey was NOT a draft dodger, he was well past the age of the draft during Vietnam, and Colledge defermnent was not a dodge, for those who were able to use it.

Limbaugh is close to my age and when he became eligible for the draft, they had stopped drafting for Vietnam service. So he is not a draft dodger, I enlisted since the draft had stopped.

Now as for Pelosi, She is not and always has been a liar, aside from being a power hungry bitch that realises now that she is up to her over lifted face in shit. PLEASE tell me the duifference between being briefed and being told something... She knew what waqs going on and she saiod nothing because they wanted information as much as anyone back then. You can tell she is lying by watching her eyes and mannerisms. She knows she is on the edge of loosing her position.

If the CIA would just release the minutes of the meetings you would see that she knew exactly what was going on. Hopefully the Freedom of indformation requests will bring them forward but I wonder if they will be locked away just like Obama's so called US birth certificate. Hey thats it put Obama on the stand under oath and make him produce the birth certificate he had the Govoner of Hawaii lock away. Lets see if he is even eligible to fuck up the country as much as he has.

Finally Waterboarding is far from torture, Our own troops are waterboarded as part of SEAR training so they get an idea of what it is like. Unfortunately those who we have fought against did not use techniques that tame. If you would like to learn a bit about torture that the VC used on our troops I can recommend a book by James Bond Stockdale, who was a prisoner in the Hanoi Hilton. You already know what the ragheads do to our troops, Beheading and dragging their naked corpses through the streets. And you are worried about someone getting wet or letting a catapillar crawl on them????
May. 16th, 2009 10:20 pm (UTC)
Re: Geeez who pissed in your cherrios??
You are wrong about Cheney and Rush.

I looked it up, and both Cheney and Rush were NOT past the age of the draft.

The draft came to its end in 1973. Cheney was born in 1941, and Rush in 1951. Both were eligible for the draft.

College deferments are only two words for DRAFT DOGERS!!
Re: Geeez who pissed in your cherrios?? - daddy - May. 16th, 2009 10:44 pm (UTC) - Expand
Re: Geeez who pissed in your cherrios?? - playgirl - May. 16th, 2009 11:02 pm (UTC) - Expand
Re: Geeez who pissed in your cherrios?? - uglyface2 - May. 17th, 2009 03:51 am (UTC) - Expand
May. 16th, 2009 06:30 pm (UTC)
It's very sad that all of these people attacking someone who posted on livejournal are so damn rude. She simply asked that no one lose their head, yet some people can't resist resorting to name-calling, much like a 7 year old. My apologies on behalf of everyone else, Playgirl.

Sidenotes -
1) Pelosi isn't on the edge, that just makes me LOL =P
2) If Obama wasn't born in the United States, I highly doubt that he would have made it anywhere near this far in his political career without that information coming to light/preventing him from running alltogether.
May. 16th, 2009 10:48 pm (UTC)
1. You apparently have not been around much we always get into good discussions.

2. Pelosi is so far on that edge she has splintyers in her ass

3. Read your history of Chicago Politics, When half the people in the graves in Chicago end up voting, anything can happen and has. Obama is as much as an American as Joseph Stalin!
(no subject) - chanbot - May. 16th, 2009 11:08 pm (UTC) - Expand
COOL - playgirl - May. 16th, 2009 11:10 pm (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - playgirl - May. 16th, 2009 10:55 pm (UTC) - Expand
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