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nebris
Mar. 18th, 2009 04:21 am (UTC)
Cross posted this to the_recession, a community I suggest you join, my dear. =)

~M~
playgirl
Mar. 18th, 2009 11:32 pm (UTC)
I just did. Now I'll see if they accept me.
p0stmdrnpr1mt1v
Mar. 18th, 2009 07:12 am (UTC)
why do people act like this is shocking news?

it's how they always conduct business, and they've been handed a check. HELLO

like the politicians who handed it to them had no idea whatsoever this would happen.
and the Democrats blame Bush and Republicans blame Obama and their fan-bases buy it when it's ASSHOLES IN BOTH PARTIES RIPPING EVERYONE OFF

the CEOs getting the bonuses arent bad at business. they didnt "fail". they're doing exactly what they're in business to do. they're siphoning off the company's profits for themselves and now they're rewarded with more by their friends in the right places.


playgirl
Mar. 18th, 2009 11:45 pm (UTC)
It is very shocking for me, because I never realized before, that men of supposedly high standards, could literally destroy our livelihood for money.

I've always known that our prisons are busting from the seams with hard core criminals, but I seriously never knew people like these, people who already have so many riches, existed in our country.
tomcatshanger
Mar. 18th, 2009 01:44 pm (UTC)
That's right. Pay attention to the pissant amount of money paid to employee's for doing their fucking job.

Ignore Obama fucking our soldiers. Who cares if soldiers have to pay for their own health care to cover wounds received while doing their duty to our country.

The American Legion Strongly Opposed to President's Plan to Charge Wounded Heroes for Treatment

Good old Marxist class warfare.

The resort trip is BS, it was a reward for those folks who, you know, SOLD and MADE A PROFIT. Not the same business unit that lost their ass. This Marxist bitch doesn't care.

The "BONUSES" are in lieu of pay, not performance based. This dumb bitch wouldn't work for free. Neither would you.
davev1968
Mar. 18th, 2009 06:45 pm (UTC)
Several things:

  1. Most of the employees receiving the "bonuses" are the ones responsible for the plight of the company. Some of those bonuses were "retention bonuses" and were paid to people who had already left the firm.
  2. $160 million is not a puissant amount, especially spread across so few people. In fact, it is just under one third the $540 million stated in the article you linked that Obama hopes to save which is spread over a much greater number of people.
  3. While you are right to be outraged by what is being suggested in the article, the two items are not logically connected.
  4. Regardless of who the resort trip was for, the company had no place paying for it because the company as a whole required government assistance to survive.
  5. A bonus is "Money paid in addition to a stated compensation." If the "bonus" is stated contractually as part of the person's compensation and is not connected to any measure of success or effort, how is it "in addition to stated compensation"?
tomcatshanger
Mar. 18th, 2009 07:56 pm (UTC)
1. Most? Eh. Wrong answer bob. Try again.

2. Yeah it is. For a government that spends $5 BILLION on Acorn, paying people who worked at AIG is pocket change.

3. No, they aren't connected. That's my point. Everyone is being led around by the nose concerning the bonuses that the Feds knew about for months. It's not news, it's a distraction.

4. Yes they do have the right to do so. If you have sales monkey's who have made your company shit tons of money, and part of their compensation agreement was a resort trip, you need to do the resort trip. This isn't rocket surgery.

5. Why is it people are so dishonest as to only pay attention to one definition?
bonus - 2. a sum of money granted or given to an employee, a returned soldier, etc., in addition to regular pay, usually in appreciation for work done, length of service, accumulated favors, etc.
playgirl
Mar. 18th, 2009 11:57 pm (UTC)
Of course bonuses are in lieu of performance.

Because of their disgraceful greed, they found they had to literally beg like the dogs that they are for billions of dollars. Bonuses are given to people when they've gone beyond the call of duty in making the company succeed. These people failed miserably, therefore, they never should have gotten a bonus. What's more, they should have been fired.

I could care less how, or on what these miserable ogres spend their money on, but I do care very much when it's yours, mine, and every other American's money for which we work so hard for.
ayoub
Mar. 18th, 2009 01:51 pm (UTC)
Thanks for this... Very informative!

Love you, beautiful :D
playgirl
Mar. 18th, 2009 11:35 pm (UTC)
You are welcome. Rachel Maddow comes out daily on MSNBC, right after Keith Olbermann, who I never miss watching, either.
playgirl
Mar. 18th, 2009 11:36 pm (UTC)
Opps! Almost forgot the most important thing of all! Love you, too!
demonicanevil
Mar. 18th, 2009 03:46 pm (UTC)
She is mighty sexy. ^_^ And mighty correct
playgirl
Mar. 18th, 2009 11:28 pm (UTC)
She is brilliant, and has a unique manner of expressing herself, and she's funny, too! :o)
demonicanevil
Mar. 20th, 2009 12:53 am (UTC)
and hot. Seriously.
playgirl
Mar. 20th, 2009 01:11 am (UTC)
Very! Seriously.
dlanor
Mar. 18th, 2009 04:10 pm (UTC)
I guess all of this is the result of wild growth and money making. What America is made of. Bigger is better, they forgot that Better is Better, not Bigger.

Making bonus payments for failure. That is where we are now.
playgirl
Mar. 18th, 2009 11:37 pm (UTC)
I think honesty, and good will towards man, is quickly dying.
dlanor
Mar. 19th, 2009 01:22 am (UTC)
I think you may be right. So sad.
daddy
Mar. 19th, 2009 01:09 am (UTC)
She is not telling the whole story... She has cpompletely omitted the role of Chris Dodd, Geitner, and Obama who signed the bailout without even reading what he put his name on. And in 2004 he was pissed at Bush pushing through the Patriot Act.

Once again PMSNBC bends the hell out of the facts to try and shiels their love intrest Obama.
playgirl
Mar. 19th, 2009 03:19 am (UTC)
Daddy, are you watching that asshole Sean Hannity? Believe me Daddy, Fox is a station that tries everything it its power to instill hate in us, and this is why I switched to MSNBC. I will NOT watch Fox ever again. That station was turning my loveable personality into that of a witch!!

The Patriot act was the worst thing that could have happened to this country.
daddy
Mar. 19th, 2009 08:35 pm (UTC)
ACTUALLY NO I dont watch Hannity.

These facts I remember because I was interested in Politiocs back then. Your own admission said that you just recently started paying attention to what is happening.

If you cannot see the "power to instill hate" that is spewed from the mouth of Olberman, you are blind and deaf! The only Power Hannity has is the power of the truth. I have repeatedly asked you to show me one lie that Hannity has put out and you refuse to. But anyway that is NOT where I get my info from. Read trhe Wall Street Journal, go to Heritage.com, hell just listen to what is happening and compair it to the history of the United States and the world.

PMSNBC just like NBC, ABC CBS and CNN are all in Obama's back pocket.

Everything that Obama is trying has been done before, and it failed miserably.

AND the Patriot act has helped keep your sweet ass safe since it was passed. We have not had any attacks on US soil again.
playgirl
Mar. 20th, 2009 01:08 am (UTC)
ACTUALLY NO I dont watch Hannity
About the patriot act. Everyone I've talked to was totally against it, just as I was. It made me feel like a prisoner wherever I went, even in my own home.

I say this with all my heart, I'd rather die, than live life in fear as Bush and the Dick had us doing. Since the day Obama became our President, I've been living, and not dying a little more each day, as the last administration had us.

Hannity and Bill-O, and the rest at Fox, started changing my personality. It got so bad, that in one post, I said the F word many times. Perhaps once or twice in my life had I actually said that word, and I believe when I said it, I was enjoying the heck out of something! heh heh

If my mother had been alive when I wrote all those F words in my journal, she would have washed my mouth with detergent!

Yes, it's true, that I recently started showing interest in the things that deal with politics, and I give thanks to Obama for instilling that interest in me. I just can't help loving the man, and the more I hear him speak, the more I love him, and I'm constantly praying for him, that the Lord protect him, his wife Michele, and their children.

I despise Hannity so much, everytime I see his ugly face on TV, I want to barf. As for Bill-O, I tend to excuse him a little, because I remember when Norma, and I had developed the biggest crush for him. Seriously!! :o)
daddy
Mar. 20th, 2009 02:58 am (UTC)
Re: ACTUALLY NO I dont watch Hannity
The opatriot should have no even bade you break a sweat if you had nothing to hide. WHO did you talk to that made you feel so bad about it? Liberals? Socialist? members of the ACLU? OR was it the cretins at MoveOn.Org?

If you had simpley listened to me you would have seen that much of what was in the patriot act had been done for years under secret. HELL Clinton is the one who started a few of the aspects of the Patriot act.

I felt much safer knowing Bush and Chainey were at the helm than I do now knowing Pelosi and Reid are running things. They both are socialists and Pelosi is mad with power. I fear for Obama because when Pelosi and Reid no longer need him. I want nothing bad to happen to him or his family I just want all three of them out of office as soon as possible.

He is a socialist and he will harm our country.
davev1968
Mar. 19th, 2009 02:29 am (UTC)
She failed 40 seconds into it when she talked about what AIG is and what it does.

If knowing all what she is talking about was so easy, why didn't she say anything about it earlier, say before things got bad?

Her hindsight is 20/20 and she acts like she knew it it before it happened.
playgirl
Mar. 19th, 2009 03:14 am (UTC)
She has been saying all these things since way before it got to this point.
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