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McCain: That one



McCain: "You know who voted for it? You might never know. That one."

Let me see, in the first debate, McCain couldn't bring himself to look Obama in the eye, or for that matter even look in Obama's direction. Last nights reference to Obama was most telling.

I've suspected for a LONG time, that McCain is a racist. There's no doubt in my mind anymore!

Obama has a name, and there's absolutely no excuse for McCain by calling Obama, "THAT ONE." Can you imagine the Republican's reaction, had Obama called McCain, "That one?"

You are something else McCain, and it sure isn't good.

Thoughts?

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diepunyhuman
Oct. 8th, 2008 11:17 pm (UTC)

Meh, I kind of agree with what Joe Biden said to Ann Curry - that's McCain's way of doing things when he's on the attack. He doesn't look people in the eye. He spouts what he spouts and that's it. I didn't take it too much to heart, and I doubt Obama did either.
diepunyhuman
Oct. 8th, 2008 11:19 pm (UTC)

for reference:



'bout five and a half minutes, pretty much gets to the point straight away + a little BSing afterward.
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neo_prodigy
Oct. 8th, 2008 11:55 pm (UTC)
By no means am I a McCain fan but I won't go so far as to label him a racist. I think he was just being a jerk regardless of Obama's skin tone.

He's a scared old man that's losing this election and hard.
playgirl
Oct. 9th, 2008 07:05 pm (UTC)
Perhaps I went too far in coming to the conclusion that his THAT ONE's comment was racist, but I know I'm not mistaken in finding the man a snob.

Yes, he is scared, as is that old liar of a barracuda.
donchep
Oct. 9th, 2008 12:44 am (UTC)
I don't think he meant it in a racist way, but it was extremely disrespectful and one of many things he did to lose the election. Yes, he pretty much lost the election at this point.

And yes you are right, if Obama had said any such thing to McCain everyone would have been upset. I certainly would have been disappointed.

Heh, so this is was the great debate style Mccain was supposed to be able to mop the floor with Obama on? This was the type of debate Mccain wanted to do 10 times?? He should count himself lucky Obama didn't call his bluff.

I'm betting the right wing nuts who like to post here will bring up William Ayers as away to change the conversation, or ACORN, or if they are as extremely pathetic as I expect them to even bring up Rev. Wright.

As a boxing fan you know what that is. When a fighter is in the last rounds and he's down in every earlieer round they throw wild punches hoping for a knockout but that never works against a good fighter.
Because it only means you've got nothing left.

Remember he adopted a Bangladeshi girl and the Rovians used that as a smear against McCain in South Carolina in 2000. So, I wouldn't go there as far as calling him a racist.


Edited at 2008-10-09 01:50 am (UTC)
playgirl
Oct. 9th, 2008 03:23 am (UTC)
The mere thought ...
Perhaps he isn’t racist, yet I can’t help but wonder.

The man calls everybody “my friend,” which turns my stomach. He could have very easily said, “My friend here,” instead of “THAT ONE.”

You better believe it; the Republican’s would have gnawed at their panties, had Obama said those insolent two words. Remember how they almost busted a gut because Obama called McCain, “John”? I also would have been very disappointed in Obama had he behaved in the despicable manner McCain did in the first debate, and said what McCain said in this last debate, but I’ll never have to worry about such things, because Obama is an intelligent, debonair gentleman, something McCain hasn’t been able to master in his close to 100 years.

McCain is a BITTER man, who has all the traits that disqualify him as a potential leader. He cannot control his temper; he’s rude, and crude. This combination would make every country despise us even more than they do now. Can you just see this uncontrollable man dealing with world leaders? The mere thought makes my spine spurt a million goose bumps!

The man lives in the past, so how can he save the future? At least we didn’t have to listen to him patting himself on the back, for the umpteenth time, with those never-ending-war stories, either. He’s obviously a warmonger; too bad he just can’t go today and re-enlist.

You betcha’! Those Repugnancant’s are still bring that Ayers up, especially that bag of gas Hannity! All I can say is, for every DIRTY political punch those Rep’s start to rehash, then Obama MUST also fight DIRT with DIRT.

So true about what you said about boxing. McCain should start watching the sport, and throw the towel in, once and for all, and spare us anymore future little tantrums.
typewriterking
Oct. 9th, 2008 01:51 am (UTC)
There's no doubt in my mind anymore!

Well of course, he has the nerve to run for office in opposition to a black man.
playgirl
Oct. 9th, 2008 06:17 am (UTC)
the nerve
Plus the nerve to prove why his school chums nicknamed him McNasty.
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nawlins_penguin
Oct. 9th, 2008 02:17 am (UTC)
I dunno about racist. I'd certainly say he's a very angry man and he has difficulty hiding it. We sat there last night trying to figure it out. You know, at some point McCain lost it. His mind I think. Maybe now he's a vehicle for determined neo-cons, the ones who chose Palin to try to sway the female vote, the ones who've turned his campaign into a smear fest, the ones who are fearful of losing the White House.

I was kind of like,"If I can't possibly see the appeal in McCain (and certainly not Palin), and I really like Obama's platforms (most of them at least), then does that make me the flaming liberal the stalwart Republicans are painting Obama loyalists to be?" I just see Sen McCain as a shell of his former self, striving to simply tear down his opponent instead of putting forward his better side. It's sad, really, to see a great man fall.

Just what makes him so mad, though? Is it that Sen Obama is a young idealist that has inspired the younger generations of Americans to stand up and be heard? Is it that scholarly approach, that Obama suggests we think our way forward? Is it the suggestion of anything remotely pacifist in his eyes?

Bah. I'll never figure it out because I'll never the appeal to his zealous supporters.
playgirl
Oct. 9th, 2008 04:22 am (UTC)
THE WINKING TOOTS
Seems like I’m the only one here that feels he’s a racists, so perhaps I’ll have to re-think this statement I made. I hope to God I’m wrong, but…

Any man or woman, who can’t control their temper, or conduct themselves in an orderly manner when it comes to manners, or whose face is an open BITTLER book like McCain’s, has no business running our country. I’ve heard some say, as you have, that it’s sad to see a great man fall. Since this is the first time I’ve ever come to know the man, I just can’t imagine him ever being a great man. Sure, he was a POW, but there have been oodles that have been, also, and they all have my deepest love, appreciation and respect, but not McCain as I see him now. I’ve read so many nasty things about this nasty man, that it’s impossible for me to say anything nice about him, because all I’ve seen is a man who will stoop down to anything with his never-ending smut about Obama. I don’t like his temper, and it scares me to death that such a man, who can’t control himself, would run our country. I don’t like his jokes, jokes like Bomb, Bomb Iran. There’s NOTHING funny about that, and I find it deathly dangerous for American’s live for this man to make jokes like that, jokes that have no place in politics.

I believe that he hates Obama, because he knows he can’t hold a candle to him. Obama represents to me, a man of honor, a devoted man who is devoted to his wife and children, unlike McCain, who left his wife and children for another woman while still married. Obama truly cares for us, the little people. McCain only cares about the rich, and winning.

Obama is a young, intelligent man, with ideals that give hope to so many of us, and even though he still isn’t our President, other countries are starting to once again have the respect we once had so long ago.

McCain is nothing but a warmonger, who will lead this country to even greater disaster than Bush, has done.

As for Palin, I’ve only begun with that WINKING TOOTS, because I’ve grown to dislike her even more than McCain, if that’s possible.

I have truly enjoyed all you’ve expressed in this post, as well as my other ones. I haven’t missed reading a single one, and I’ve learned quite a few things I never new, thanks to you and other LJ friends! Thank you.
lemmy59
Oct. 9th, 2008 02:35 am (UTC)
I have to agree with some of the posts above: he was a complete jerk to act that way. I was disappointed by his demeanor, as I thought it was angry and spiteful.

But racist? No, I don't agree. I think you're getting to the point where you'll take any negative action from McCain and blow up because you've fallen so hard for Obama. The reason I comment so little these days is because I think you've lost the ability to be objective anymore. I mean, really, these are politicians we're talking about: professional cheats and liars! :)

You make many valid points with your political rants - some of which I even agree with - but this accusation is making too much out of something. He's a grizzled old man with questionable manners, but he's not a racist.
playgirl
Oct. 9th, 2008 06:14 am (UTC)
wrong...
I'm going to go to bed, and give great thought about my racist comment, since I'm the only one who took it as that. This can only mean that I could very possibly have taken it wrong.

I am happy to find that all of you found his comment spiteful, and totally unnecessary.

One things for sure, he's a sore loser!

Someone here called him a jackass, and I agree! :o)
tigron_x
Oct. 9th, 2008 02:38 am (UTC)
I cracked up laughing when he said, "That one!"

I wasn't watching it, just listening to it. And when he said "That one!" with that tone, lol, I just pictured him talking to the audience and all of a sudden sternly pointing at Obama and saying, "That one!" And sure enough, when I set it back to see if he did, (lol) he did!

Haha! What a jackass!


They were subtly attacking each other back and forth the whole debate, and then BAM! "That one!" comes out. Heheh... I can't wait to see the third one.

This debate was decent. However, for the most part, there wasn't any new information or ideas brought up.

Both had really weak economical ideas. And McCain's mortgage buy out or w/e it was that he proposed was too vague for me to form an opinion.

And again McCain showed that he had a stronger foreign policy stance.

So, I have to conclude that McCain was the stronger candidate in this debate as well, even though Obama won the economical portion by default so to speak.

But, due to the economical crisis we're in, that win makes Obama look really good. So, I wouldn't be suprised if most people sided with Obama on this one.
playgirl
Oct. 9th, 2008 05:00 am (UTC)
with a twist...
I cracked up, too, like as in firecracker! Had I not paid so much for my flat screen TV, I would have thrown the peanut butter and jelly sandwich and cup of milk I was sipping from at him!

Tig, you’re supposed to listen, AND watch these debates to get a richer, fuller taste!

Oh, and according to my calculations, Obama won the debate on all issues. As for “THAT ONE,” he just proved to be a cocktail glass full of BITTERS with a twist. :o)
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harley1456
Oct. 9th, 2008 02:51 am (UTC)
Honestly, McCain is my favorite Republican.....(I have never voted for a GOP candidate)

AND.....I am deeply saddened to see him first fall into GOP party lines this election...and second, the way he had let Palin slander Obama.....

BUT I do not thing the "ONE" comment was racist....condescending for sure, but not racist...
playgirl
Oct. 9th, 2008 04:42 am (UTC)
the ONLY Republican...
In the beginning, I use to admire and respect Bush. When I found out that Reagan adored his wife Nancy, and was faithful until his dying day, he became the ONLY Republican that's not only my favorite, but my most loved, and respected, unlike THAT ONE!

I honestly believe he put up that Winking Toots to say the nasty things she did about Obama. I'm sorry Harley, but I just can't help finding McCain a horrible and despicable person.

You, as well as all who have been so nice to comment here, say the same thing about my racist comment. Perhaps I should take that back, but let me watch the next debate before I do so. If I find I'm wrong, I'll let you all watch me eat crow. I do that a lot, so it won’t be difficult! :o)
uglyface2
Oct. 9th, 2008 04:20 am (UTC)
Is that your dog's teeth? How'd you get them so white?

As for the snooze-fest debate no, I'm sticking with snooze-fest, I'm surprised ANYONE could get ANY emotion from that little slice of tedium.
playgirl
Oct. 9th, 2008 04:28 am (UTC)
white sparkling teeth
Yes, that's one of my TEN dogs, (and here you thought I only had 20 or 30 something cats!) and all have white sparkling teeth like that, thanks to Grandpa and I brushing their teeth once a week! Oh, and bones I get free from my butcher. Seriously.

How could you possibly snooze when the debate was going on?! I never even blinked, and almost slipped out of my chair when that horrible man called my Obama, "That one!"

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photosexual
Oct. 9th, 2008 05:15 am (UTC)
I'm probably confused. How is the term "that one" racist? Is everyone making assumptions or judgements, or can calling someone (regardless of race) "that one" only mean racism? "that one WHAT?" Democrat? Person?
Why must the reference immediately make people cry race? Just like the use of "you people"....how is that offensive when you're identifying a group? I'm clearly missing something here, but I'm ok with that. Just confused. Hell, what if they were both whitey? would "that one" mean something different?


playgirl
Oct. 9th, 2008 06:04 am (UTC)
Red lipstick
Okay already! Every single darling who has commented on my racist comment disagrees with me!

Let me see. Perhaps it wasn’t racist, but perhaps it would have been better if his “That One,” had been racist, because this is how I see it:

First of all, McCain is the FIRST person to use such a term when speaking of a person that’s present in a room. When a person makes reference to another human-being as “that one” I see it as that person calling said person a THING, and not a human-being. Let me give you an example as to what I mean. When I shop around for a lipstick, and spot the perfect RED lipstick I want, I point at the lipstick, and tell the sales lady, “I want THAT ONE,” because it’s a lipstick; a thing. So, if McCain didn’t mean it in a racist way when he pointed and said, “THAT ONE,” then to me, he is a snob who feels Obama is below him. Why? Perhaps because he’s black or could it be that he feels superior to Obama because Obama didn’t join the armed forces? Who knows, but I do know this, that when McNASTY made reference to Obama as “THAT ONE,” he offended oodles of folks, including me.

Now, had Obama called McCain, “That one,” we would have heard, non-stop, about the audacity and outrage for weeks.

I rest my case. Heh heh
*runs and hides*
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justgoto
Oct. 9th, 2008 09:39 am (UTC)
Thoughts?
You are trying to hard.
playgirl
Oct. 9th, 2008 05:45 pm (UTC)
Re: Thoughts?
Just as hard as that old barracuda. :o)
biglittlebro
Oct. 9th, 2008 11:06 am (UTC)
Perhaps referring to Obama as "That ONe" goes deeper than being racist. It would be much worse for America and the world if McCain simply couldn't remember Obama's name, a common problem with the old, and dare I say it, the senile.

Two things I picked up from the debate: First, it was my impression that the adjudicator tended to favor McCain over Obama, not that it made that much difference, and Secondly, I believe that McCain is all facade. Underneath he is a scared person. I wouldn't trust him in tough situations.
tigron_x
Oct. 9th, 2008 11:49 am (UTC)
An adjudicator?

There was no judge, nor was it a judicial hearing.
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asifallforever
Oct. 9th, 2008 11:47 am (UTC)
I don't have love for either one of them. I really think he said that one because he doesn't like Obama. Not because he is of mixed race or for the fact that he is a democrat. He just doesn't like obama. It's clear he doesn't since the first debate. We talked about this at work yesterday. Why people want to assume that when a white person makes a disparaging remark in the direction of someone who isn't white. They are automatically being racist. What i got from the remark was disgust for someone on a person level. It didn't have anything to do with race. He did his best to control it. Stay professional but even the most professional of us slip from time to time. The Black guy on your thread gives Mccain a pass on this one. His intent wasn't racial.
playgirl
Oct. 9th, 2008 07:14 pm (UTC)
Of course he doesn't like Obama, but why?! Obama tried to run a clean campaign, but McCain has made that imposible, with his dirty mud slinging. I only hope Obama fights back just as dirty.

"Why people want to assume that when a white person makes a disparaging remark in the direction of someone who isn't white. They are automatically being racist."

It's been visa versa, also!

I'm the only one here, that took his comment as racial, so it must mean that I was wrong in coming to that assumption. I will be keeping a close watch on McCain in the next election, and I will not be surprised if he comes out with some other comment towards Obama which I'll again assume as racist.
daddy
Oct. 9th, 2008 11:15 pm (UTC)
THAT ONE??? That makes someone a racist?? please give me a break. First he did not want to be called by his name Hussein, Anyone who used his name was a racist, then he did not want people to ask him about his associations or about his birth, if they did they were racist, If anyone said they did not like him for any reason they were racist,

NOW just because McCain refers to him in the third person, he is a racist. I remember you did not have any problem on the first debate, with Hussein calling McCaIN, "JOHN" While the entire debate when McCain referred to Hussein he called Senator Obama.

Seems like double standards are comming to the surface again.

HOW about Hussein beuing a Mulatto and denying his white heritage, isn't that racist too? or maybe its just stupid.
p0stmdrnpr1mt1v
Oct. 10th, 2008 01:28 am (UTC)
well seriously, why would or should his middle name be repeatedly emphasized? McCain isnt constantly referred to as Sidney. why would he?
it's interesting that the middle name "Hussein" is repeatedly emphasized but there is no mention that "Barack" is an African form of the Hebrew name "Baruch". if we're investigating his name, why is that ignored and why is it not emphasized?

also, why keep endlessly harping on his associations or his birth if he and his campaign have already addressed them? he's talked openly about his birth. he responded on Rev. Wright, and denounced Wright's controversial views. he responded on Ayers and denounced Ayers' former activities and views in the 1960s. why keep bringing it up?
McCain worked with Kerry on the Select Senate Committee on POW-MIA Affairs, does that mean McCain therefore agrees with Kerry's anti-war statements he made when he came home from Vietnam?? of course not. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_fallacy


as for your saying he denies his white heritage, apparently youve missed his references to his white Mother and Grandmother, both in his writing and in his public speaking. I'm not trying to say that you're lying here. I dont expect everyone to be exposed to the same information and news.
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p0stmdrnpr1mt1v
Oct. 10th, 2008 12:18 am (UTC)
to me, McCain's general demeanor and specifically his "that one" comment make him look arrogant and condescending, and I'm guessing (and I see in the comments above Biden pointed this out) he does this kind of thing regularly. with that said, I have no way of knowing if he has racial prejudice or not but it comes off as him arrogantly looking at Obama as beneath him whatever the case. maybe feelings of racial superiority feed into that. maybe not. I think I'd have to hear more out of McCain to figure that part out.
I imagine it must be difficult for politicians to walk a fine line between wanting to come off as both personable and respectful. I dont think McCain accomplishes either. maybe he's an equal-opportunity asshole in debates but that doesnt make him any more appealing. this guy will have to represent the US to the entire world as President.
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