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Matt Lauer : If it's working (surge) Senator, do you now have a better estimate of when American forces can come home from Iraq.
MCCAIN: "No, but that's NOT TOO IMPORTANT, what's important is the casualties in Iraq..."

What a damn contradition, but it's nothing new; he CONSTANTLY contradicts himself! He says what's important is the CASUALTIES in Iraq. How can there NOT be more CASUALTIES if it's "NOT TOO IMPORTANT" when they can come home from Iraq?!! The LONGER they stay in Iraq, the MORE MUCKING CASUALTIES there will be!

And lets not forget his, you-didn't-serve-in-the-military HAR HAR, so you have no right to question me when it comes to the military!

My brother served in Iraq for an entire year. Trust me when I tell you that it IS EXTREMELY important, not only to them, but their families, when American forces can come home from Iraq. This man just doesn't get it, that our soldiers in Iraq are NOT little mechanical robots, but flesh and blood human beings who COUNT the days to come back home!

We're on NOT on the verge of RECESSION, but a DEPRESSION, and the ONLY thing this man has on his mind is WAR!

By and by, I will NOT use delicate tissue paper words when expressing my thoughts on this man, and will NOT stop, just because he served in Vietnam! My dad did, too, as did countless others who NEVER made it back home!!

With McCain we are DOOMED! Thank God Obama will be our next President, and MARK MY WORDS, he is!!

On another note, was I dreaming or something about Bush suddenly wanting to portray himself as a nice guy? Does anybody know something about it?



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Jun. 12th, 2008 10:58 pm (UTC)
Just a few simple questions for you. I know you can't live your life on what ifs. But, WHAT IF all the rumors are true about Obama? What if just some are true? How will you get him out of office if he starts being ANTI-American? Before you could blink laws can be passed that would infringe on that one right you put on almost every post, "The right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed." America didn't have a clue that Clinton passed laws to to prevent the major agencies from sharing information, CIA, FBI etc. Look what happened because of that?

Wouldn't you rather be safe than sorry? I'm NOT saying that McCain is the answer either. I just worry that someone that won't say the Pledge of Allegance or salute the Flag, how much they could be FOR America?
Jun. 12th, 2008 11:53 pm (UTC)
Please practice some due diligence.

Now..assay your concerns and concentrate on real problems like your inability to fact check.

fightthesmears.com...Yeah we're going to be on top of all the LIES the assholes are spreading about Obama.
What IF... - playgirl - Jun. 13th, 2008 01:40 am (UTC) - Expand
Re: What IF... - harfafnor - Jun. 13th, 2008 01:49 am (UTC) - Expand
Re: What IF... - playgirl - Jun. 13th, 2008 02:18 am (UTC) - Expand
Re: What IF... - daddy - Jun. 15th, 2008 11:09 pm (UTC) - Expand
Re: What IF... - playgirl - Jul. 18th, 2008 09:55 pm (UTC) - Expand
Re: What IF... - daddy - Jul. 18th, 2008 11:35 pm (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - tigron_x - Jun. 13th, 2008 02:40 am (UTC) - Expand
Is it any wonder ... - playgirl - Jun. 13th, 2008 06:50 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - daddy - Jun. 15th, 2008 11:13 pm (UTC) - Expand
Jun. 12th, 2008 11:18 pm (UTC)
I just worry that someone that won't say the Pledge of Allegance or salute the Flag, how much they could be FOR America?




A hand gesture and a pin are the least of our worries.

I don't know that we can live on "what ifs" - I'd rather take my chances and fight for whats mine, than to continue to live under the foot of the majority.
Jun. 12th, 2008 11:36 pm (UTC)
McCain is a terrible candidate. Expect them to oust him at the Convention and stick someone like Newt Gingritch in his place. (wild ass guess)
Jun. 13th, 2008 03:55 am (UTC)
I wouldn't put too much stock in the McCain Mutiny culminating into a successful convention takeover. Only Ron Paul's camp were seriously organizing for it, and there aren't enough to win. Conservative activists resigned to not having a voice in this election cycle as soon as Romney stepped down, and the most active thing they're going to do is sit out or write in Fred Thompson in November.

For the lolz, though, I suspect enough people would step up to implement my plan to abuse the ballot initiative process to award their state electoral ballots to Sandra Day O'Connor. She only needs 270 to win!Twenty-five states allow ballot initiatives, and between them, that probably clears 270.
(no subject) - daddy - Jun. 15th, 2008 11:15 pm (UTC) - Expand
Jun. 12th, 2008 11:42 pm (UTC)
You GO girl! Tell the truth about McCain.

As for your other commenters that are soooo concerned with Obama showing patriotism - did it ever OCCUR to you that you've swallowed a Republican talking point, whole? Don't be stupid, think for yourself!

Jul. 18th, 2008 10:01 pm (UTC)
As the days go by, the more worried I become, should McBush become our president.

I'll be posting more stuff on the man, that Fox news, and most of the media keeps out. Obama is too great a man to fight dirty against the Republicans, so I'll fight dirty for him!!
Jun. 13th, 2008 02:25 am (UTC)
M<Cain was pretty clear, he wants our troops in Iraq as long as our troops have been in Germany and Japan. Maybe forever. he is an idiot.
Jul. 18th, 2008 09:58 pm (UTC)
McCain is a warmonger PERIOD!
Jun. 13th, 2008 02:43 am (UTC)
You know just a thought to all the flag pin wearing and saluting the flag repliers, civilians don't have to salute the flag, civilians have the choice to hold their right hand over their heart or not to teh flag and don't have to recite the pledge or sing the anthem because...we're Americans, it's our right to do so or not, it dosen't make any more American than the next fellow who may salute,sing,wear a pin and what have you.
Being American is something we just are and it's something other people in other countries don't always understand. But when you start making ceremonial acts to the flag,anthem and pledge a test of one's patriotism you're losing the point of what being an American is.
One can show pride in our country without it symbolism and it's our right as Americans to do so.

Freedom from Opression and Freedom of the rights our founding fathers gave us, not some spin doctor trying to create another bullshit "controversy" to get votes.

Bring our troops home and i put my flag out every day and don't anyone tell me i don't support our troops because i want them home from Bush's war and i have a lot of pride in America that McCain can't take away.
Jun. 13th, 2008 03:26 am (UTC)
And lets not forget his, you-didn't-serve-in-the-military HAR HAR, so you have no right to question me when it comes to the military!

I should remind you that you were on the other side of this with Romney and his sons. Although they'd done important missionary work, you belittled their
contributions in comparison to military service.
I recalled you were outraged they would dare consider themselves on an equal moral footing with servicemen.

What a damn contradition, but it's nothing new; he CONSTANTLY contradicts himself!
His internal logic is sound enough. He's probably making a Hobbsian argument.

With McCain we are DOOMED! Thank God Obama will be our next President, and MARK MY WORDS, he is!!
I wish we were more evolved as a civilization to believe that if some great man comes to power, all chaos and misery will be eradicated.
Sadly, the best I can hope for is that when this new Chosen One is elected, they'll soberly absorb the reality that he's not living up to the Messianic promise given before the election.
Jun. 13th, 2008 06:06 am (UTC)
Mr. Hair and his sons sacrifice
Oh yes! But it wasn’t it wasn’t important “missionary work. It was important campaigning for Papa. I recall the day Mr. Hair had the gall to say that his 5 sons were contributing (sacrificing) just as much to this country (in their big as hell refrigerated air conditioned bus filled with lots of cookies and milk) as the men and women who were serving in Iraq, by campaigning for him.

I just don’t see the connection between my Har Har statement where McCain was outraged that Obama would make comments about veterans (when he dilly dallied on the proposed GI Bill) since he hadn’t served in the military.

I wonder how many of our soldiers have shed their blood since the day Mr. Hair sait that? I really don't have to wonder and worry about the well being of his 5 sons, huh?

Edited at 2008-06-13 06:10 am (UTC)
Spinning McCain's Words Once Again - tigron_x - Jun. 13th, 2008 08:38 pm (UTC) - Expand
Jun. 13th, 2008 04:10 am (UTC)
I'm sure it's safe to assume he considers that the agenda (i.e. the reason for going into the war) has precedents over coming back home, i.e. ending the war campaign. Just because he doesn't share your view that priority number one is bringing the troops home, as in leaving Iraq or ending the war, doesn't mean he isn't concerned about a soldier's well being. It's quite clear that he is interested in continueing the war campaign. So, why in the world would he consider brining troops home as priority when they have a job to complete? And, mind you, he does need living, breathing soldiers to accomplish the war campaign. So, that doesn't mean soldiers don't get to come home and visit their family and friends during leave nor does it mean that he isn't concerned about casualties.

So no, he doesn't "constantly" contradict himself. He just doesn't share your views, and you continue to spin his words just as the media does because his views do not coincide with yours.
Jun. 13th, 2008 06:41 am (UTC)
Of course he doesn’t share my views. His PRIORITY should be in bringing our troops back, which the man DOES NOT find important! PRIORITY to the man is what’s been PRIORITY Bush, and that to continue this war in Iraq. HOW many years and how many TRILLIONS does it take to train Iraqi soldiers? Isn’t 6 years long enough?! Aside from TRAINING Iraqis who DO NOT want us there, WHY are we there STILL there, after so many years? After all, Saddam is 6 feet under. And whatever happened to bin Laden? Why so little importance to the man? Wasn’t HE the PURPOSE we went out to war?

I sometimes wonder if these men who run our government, haven’t been desensitized to the pain and suffering of those who have to do the actual fighting for this country.

And of course he’s CONSTANTLY contradicting (FLIP FLOPPING) himself on every issue. Why do you think he’s been dubbed Mr. Flip Flop?

So tell me Tig, WHY are we still in Iraq, and why so much interest in Iran? And why such lack of interest by McCain and Bush in the ACTUAL man, bin Laden, who caused this whole mess on 911?

Tig, the man is a warmonger. Every time he says the word WAR, his eyes light up, and his mouth starts to salivate! Watch his eyes Tig, watch his mouth, and watch the mechanical movements of his arms and fists when he tries to flex them!!

Re: MCCAIN: NOT TO IMPORTANT - tigron_x - Jun. 13th, 2008 01:27 pm (UTC) - Expand
Re: MCCAIN: NOT TO IMPORTANT - donchep - Jun. 14th, 2008 02:48 am (UTC) - Expand
Re: MCCAIN: NOT TO IMPORTANT - tigron_x - Jun. 14th, 2008 04:48 am (UTC) - Expand
Re: MCCAIN: NOT TO IMPORTANT - donchep - Jun. 14th, 2008 05:01 am (UTC) - Expand
Re: MCCAIN: NOT TO IMPORTANT - tigron_x - Jun. 14th, 2008 12:21 pm (UTC) - Expand
Re: MCCAIN: NOT TO IMPORTANT - donchep - Jun. 14th, 2008 11:38 pm (UTC) - Expand
Re: MCCAIN: NOT TO IMPORTANT - tigron_x - Jun. 15th, 2008 02:16 am (UTC) - Expand
Re: MCCAIN: NOT TO IMPORTANT - donchep - Jun. 15th, 2008 03:19 am (UTC) - Expand
Re: MCCAIN: NOT TO IMPORTANT - daddy - Jun. 15th, 2008 11:33 pm (UTC) - Expand
Jun. 13th, 2008 06:08 pm (UTC)
Oh, Playgirl. PG, PG, PG.

You really think Obama is going to be a good president. You've pinned your hopes and dreams on him. Nothing anybody says is getting through to you.

You're in for a very painful return to reality come January, and I'll be the first one to laugh in your face when you do.

Yes, I'm predicting an Obama win. I'll spare you the details on why. Still, I can't help but agree with McCain when he says that Obama is Jimmy Carter's second term. This man will be a disaster, and I'm going to enjoy watching your reactions.
Jul. 18th, 2008 09:57 pm (UTC)
Yes I do. Yes, I've pinned my hopes and dreams on Obama. IF McCain were to become our president, then it will be the death of most Americans hopes and dreams.

Obama is a man of integrity. McCain is not.
Jun. 15th, 2008 10:55 pm (UTC)
You are doing just what Obama said the republicans were doing to his spiritual adviosor running snippets and not the whole conversation.

Please go and listen to the whole conversation, you just might change your opinion of the conversation. I heard the whole conversation and I knew well aware that NBC would chop that conversation to pieces and use it this way.

I notice you have said nothjing about Obama's latest blunders where he cannot make three sentences without a teleprompter, but that will come to fruition when he tries to debate McCain, or anyone else who has offered to go one on one with him. Hell Obama's own people cannot find a single thing that he accomplished while he was in the Senate. I would post thuings from youtube too but it seems that there are more than enough here already.
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