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Dan Abrams: Superdelegates Super Scam?

I'm barely beginning to comprehend how these Superdelegates work, and I just don't like it, and yes, I've come to the conclusions that Superdelegates ARE a SCAM! Why can't WE THE PEOPLE come to a decision as to who our next president will be?

Has this course of action of electing a president always existed? Will it, or can it ever change, where WE THE PEOPLE CAST OUR VOTE, and whoever gets the MOST votes becomes our president? WHY is something that's so imperative as voting for the President of the United States so baffling? Why can't it just be as S-I-M-P-L-E as 1-2-3?!! GRRR!!

Thank you Dan Abrams for expressing my exact sentiments! Oh, and Abrams has just been added to ♥ PLAYGIRL'S OODLES OF CRUSHES LIST! ♥ :o)

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Dan Abrams: Superdelegates Super Scam?

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( 26 comments — Leave a comment )
Feb. 12th, 2008 09:25 pm (UTC)
Definitely sounds like a scam to me!
Feb. 12th, 2008 11:01 pm (UTC)
Feb. 12th, 2008 09:38 pm (UTC)
Why can't WE THE PEOPLE come to a decision as to who our next president will be

Superdelegates only have a say in the primaries, which are not actually a part of the official government election. The primaries are to help the parties decide who will run for each party.

We, the people, get to vote on who will be the next president. We can vote for one of the two major party candidates, a minor party candidate, or even write in a candidate.

Oh, and just so you will know, the Electoral College currently serves several purposes:

  1. It increases the say of the smaller and less populated states. Without the Electoral College, Over half the states may as well not vote because the President will be chosen by the 12 most populous states.
  2. It increases the effect of an individual vote. It does that by concentrating voting power. Instead of being one vote out of 100 million, you vote becomes one vote out of 100 thousand. The smaller the voting poll the more valuable and effective one vote becomes.
  3. It provides for a better representation of the population. In states where there are a few large cities, without the EC those few cities would determine the states vote.
Feb. 12th, 2008 10:40 pm (UTC)
If each individual has one vote, and that vote is treated as a single vote, then who gives a damn how the state "votes."

Popular vote should be the ONLY way a president is elected. The electoral college is a scam.
Feb. 14th, 2008 12:14 am (UTC)
delegates are award by the population of the state.
Feb. 14th, 2008 12:52 am (UTC)
once again, why make things even more complicated? Not sure what state you are in but the way delegates are awarded here in CA is FUCKED UP.

It doesn't make sense in any way, shape or form. One vote per person. Win the popular vote and win the presidency.

Anything else is fucked up and allows for delegates to NOT vote the way the people want. Superdelegates? WTF is that?
Feb. 14th, 2008 01:17 am (UTC)
1) The delegates only apply to the two major parties. The parties use the primaries to choose their candidates. This has nothing to do with the actual election.

2) You live in Cali, so of course your political system if fucked up.

3) You want the popular vote to decide things? I guess that means you want the presidency to be decided by the 12 most populous states and fuck everyone else, right? Or, even worse, just the people who live in major cities.

You need to go back to school and learn the how and why of American politics because you are woefully ignorant.
Feb. 14th, 2008 03:21 am (UTC)
Um, no. I have studied politics since I was in Jr. High and your attitude sucks. I like other people who responded CLEARLY have a problem with way politics are done in this country.

God forbid the MAJORITY decide who they want to run in an election.

Feb. 14th, 2008 02:08 pm (UTC)
Look, dumbass, anyone can run in the election. What part of that do you not understand?

There is nothing stopping anyone from mounting one's own campaign for President. Just ask Ross Perot and Ralph Nader.

All you have to do is get enough supporters to get on the ballot. One does not even need a majority to get on the ballot. One needs merely enough to satisfy the requirements of law.

The question decided by the primaries and caucuses is who do the members of the major parties want as their candidate. If you want the party majority to determine the party candidate, join the party, become a leader of the party, and then work to change the party rules. And, guess what, no laws need to be changed, just the party rules.

You apparently haven't learned anything from your studies or you would understand all that.
Feb. 12th, 2008 10:41 pm (UTC)
those few cities would determine the states vote.
And Goddess forbid that the majority of the people should decide who the next president should be.

Feb. 12th, 2008 11:56 pm (UTC)
Re: those few cities would determine the states vote.
If that was the case, the USA would never have formed and we'd still be a bunch of different countries.
Feb. 13th, 2008 12:09 am (UTC)
Yada Yada
Which does not address the issue...and we were never 'a bunch of different countries', except for Texas. But whatever...

Feb. 13th, 2008 06:13 pm (UTC)
Re: those few cities would determine the states vote.
And here I always thought we the people did!

No words can convey how I feel now, that I've learned the truth.
Feb. 14th, 2008 02:00 pm (UTC)
Re: those few cities would determine the states vote.
Yeah, because a President should only have to care about the 12 states that he would need to get elected and fuck everyone else.

Or maybe you would like to live under a president you did not have a say in choosing?

Here is something for you to think about. The majority once considered a black person to be worth 4/5th of a white person.

You are an arrogant, idiotic asshole.
Feb. 14th, 2008 08:25 pm (UTC)
I'm not idiotic. =)

And like most kneejerk jerkoffs, you ain't bothered to do yer fuckin' homework. The majority did not consider blacks to be 4/5's of a white person.

The Great Compromise counted only slaves as three fifths of a person and was a brokered deal among the political elite, the same one that set up the Electoral Collage.

The way the EC works now, the vote of some sheepfucker in the boondocks is worth the same as the votes of several hundred city folks. That has created a distortion in the process, one that had gotten us the like of George W Bush, but you probably like sucking on his dick.


Edited at 2008-02-14 08:25 pm (UTC)
Feb. 12th, 2008 11:12 pm (UTC)
It's not right
Superdelegates should have ZERO say in the primaries. It shouldn't matter if there are less populated states; everyone in the U.S. should just cast their vote, and in the end, votes should be counted, and that's it. The 12 most poulaous states shouldn't even exist! We don't need them. It could be so simple, and so much fairer if we'd all vote as a colleges vote for their school president or school queen!

I can't help but smell a bunch of rats when it comes to the present system of elections.

All these months of political stuff, and with more to come until November; what has been the purpose if delegates, superdelagates, and joe blows are going to decide who our next president will be?

It's just not right, and someone should change it immediately.
Feb. 13th, 2008 01:03 am (UTC)
Do you ever feel like your getting blamed for just telling it like it is you explained it well. It Kind of makes a guy feel like he just wants read so he does not get jumped all over for stating the facts. Good job!
Feb. 12th, 2008 11:06 pm (UTC)
40 years ago the Democrats found a way to shoot themselves inthe foot and Nixon got elected. Well they're repeating the formula with the super-delegates.

Feb. 13th, 2008 02:19 pm (UTC)
They sure did, and they sure have. Thank you for the link donchep!
Feb. 13th, 2008 12:23 am (UTC)
in other news...

author Naomi Wolf speaking at the UW on her book "The End of America"
Feb. 13th, 2008 06:09 pm (UTC)
Re: in other news...
Thank you so much! I've made a new post with this youtube video, and I've given you credit!
Feb. 13th, 2008 12:56 am (UTC)
Hey Sunshine It looks like you need to Dance ;) So I am here to ask you if you want to Dance it is a lot more fun the politics any way :o)

So take my hand and lets go:o)

Feb. 13th, 2008 06:08 pm (UTC)
Opps! Replied in the wrong place.
Tango sounds good. :o)
Feb. 13th, 2008 02:48 pm (UTC)
Good morning Sunshine!
Good morning Sunshine!
just wanted to say Hi and see if you are sill talking to me?
Feb. 13th, 2008 06:05 pm (UTC)
Re: Good morning Sunshine!
Been extremely busy Sweet Stuff.
Feb. 13th, 2008 04:04 pm (UTC)
I missed Chatting last night
I missed Chatting last night with you Savanah what Happen? I Hope every thing is alright.

well LOve you Sunshine :)
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