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1. After banning plastic bags from chain grocery stores and bottled water from City Hall, San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom has set his sights on soda - working up a plan to charge a new city fee to big retailers of sugar drinks.

"The bottom line is that there is a direct nexus between high-fructose corn syrup drinks like colas and Big Gulps and obesity among schoolkids," Newsom said Friday.

The idea of taxing soda to combat obesity - which is being touted as the first in the nation - has been roiling around in health circles for some time, including backing from the American Medical Association.

In San Francisco, Newsom said a recent Health Department survey found that 24 percent of fifth-, seventh- and ninth-graders were overweight and that high-sugar drinks accounted for 10 percent of the kids' caloric intake.

All in all, he said obesity accounts for tens of millions of dollars of the city's health costs.

What will be next on their SIN list? Pancakes? Potato chips? Pizza? Twinkies? Apple Jacks? Doughnuts? Gummy Bears?

Why don't these politicians just tell us out and out, that they want our money, and leave our goodies alone?

They pull a string here, and a string there, and we do what they demand. More and more we become their little puppets! Will it ever stop?

2. Girl, 10, Arrested for Using Knife to Cut Food at School


3. Little Girl Receives Graffiti Citation for Chalk Drawing

I'll never forget making a hopscotch pattern and playing days on end on the same pattern hopscotch with my little friends!

Thoughts please!

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Dec. 18th, 2007 05:27 pm (UTC)
As far as No. 2 goes... I blame the parents. Who in their right mind sends a kid to school with that kind of lunch?

I can see why the knife was confiscated, but why was the girl was arrested? That's freaking ridiculous!

BTW... I love you :D

Just sayen' :D
Dec. 18th, 2007 09:15 pm (UTC)
But what if the little girl grabbed the leftover steak, along with the steak knife because she didn't know any better, without her parents knowledge? Ok, suspend the little girl, but don't arrest her with felony charges. Instead, why not explain to the child the error she unknownly committed, instead of tramatizing her for life with this outrageous felony arrest? Laws are going too far!

Oh! And I love you, too! :o)
(no subject) - ayoub - Dec. 19th, 2007 02:45 pm (UTC) - Expand
Dec. 18th, 2007 05:31 pm (UTC)
Is it a high fructose tax, or a general soda tax? If a high fructose tax, I wouldn't really mind as there is essentially a sugar tax lobbied by the corn lobby. That's why sugar is more expensive than HFCS and why sodas don't use sugar. So, if HFCS gets taxed, it would just be them getting a taste of their own legislation for reasons that benefit the population rather than their own profits. If it taxes all soda, including those that use cane sugar, I'm against it.

Personally, sugar tastes better, isn't as bad for you, and I'd be very happy if they went back to using it. I've even had blind taste tests at movie nights with Coke from Canada using sugar and normal Coke with HFCS. Everybody chose the Canadian Coke as tasting better.
Dec. 18th, 2007 09:20 pm (UTC)
It's a high fructose tax. But the problem with this is, that if this law (sin tax) comes to pass, there will be no end to labeling other foods as sin items.

Coca Cola made in Mexico is the best tasting soda pop in the world! Seriously! :o)
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Dec. 18th, 2007 05:34 pm (UTC)
direct nexus between high-fructose corn syrup drinks like colas and Big Gulps and obesity among schoolkids

actually...it's more of a problem with the fact that kids may be taking that in but the fact they've got so many games and gadgets at home they're not going out and playing and getting exercise.
Dec. 18th, 2007 09:58 pm (UTC)
You're right! What these douchebags should do is fight for more physical activities in schools, and more parks for these kids to play basketball, etc.
Dec. 18th, 2007 05:46 pm (UTC)
As a Type II Diabetic, I know first hand that I cannot consume sugar or even high-fructose corn syrup in foods. It immediately spikes my insulin levels. I don't need the Government to tell me its bad for me, but that's because I'm an intelligent person who does my own reading, research, and I work closely with my doctor regarding my food choices.

The problem is--most people don't and companies take advantage of that by deceptive marketing practices.

1. Bottled water. There are fewer regulations regarding the quality of water that goes into bottles then what comes out of your sink taps. Yet our government writes rules about bottle water that specifically allows mega companies like Coke and Pepsi get away with deceptive labeling that they aren't allowed to do in other places like Canada and the UK.

2. Sugar-Free. High-fructose corn syrup is used as a sweetner that does not get counted as sugar, but has all the same impact on the body as sugar does. Again with the deceptive marketing and labeling practices. Again most people do not think or read they simply buy and as a society we over eat and over consume. "Sugar free must mean it's healthy and there for I can eat twice as much."

That said. I don't think the government needs to legislate my choices. I think the government wastes too much time doing that already. I think they DO need to prevent companies like Coke and Pepsi from selling directly to kids as healthy food choices--when they're not. (And they do--especially these days when they install vending machines on campuses and in schools).

Food companies should be held to a high standard of honesty in labeling and honesty in advertising. And yes, I think the government has a role in holding them to that honesty instead of forever giving them legal loop holes that allow for the deceptive practice they use here.

I think the medical and education community needs to do a better job educating parents and kids on healthy choices.

And yet even with that--it is OUR choice to make.

I've had to make mine, others have to make theirs. Government intervention is not going to change that--not really. It's just popular 'noise' during election time to make it seem like they're doing something by appealing to an emotional issue of the masses.

In ancient times I believe that was called Bread & Circuses.

Dec. 18th, 2007 09:31 pm (UTC)
I am also a diabetic. The words Sugar Free on candy is so misleading to many people. Why the sudden attack on soda pop, and not on companies who place this words, SUGAR FREE, on packages of candies, which are as dangerous as can be for diabetics who believe their safe by eating them?

Why doesn't the government just let us make our own choices, whether they are good choices, or bad ones? Each and every one of us has to start taking responsibility for our own actions.

All these new "it’s not good for you" laws could care less whether we live or die, all they want is more of our money.
Dec. 18th, 2007 06:03 pm (UTC)
we're far too regulated and PC. I blame tree hugging hippies, dammit!

while I agree with the Mayor's belief that the foods are a direct cause of our obese population (I did a study once that charted the surge in supersized meals and the corresponding weight problems) I don't agree with regulation. it should be personal responsibility. and if you continue to make bad choices - fuck you, it's not EVERYBODY'S problem.

Dec. 18th, 2007 09:34 pm (UTC)
Couldn't have expressed my sentiments better than that.

Thanks! :o)
Dec. 18th, 2007 06:22 pm (UTC)
1) If they hate High Fructose Corn Syrup so much, maybe they should work to get rid of the import limits on sugar. Did you know that the biggest supporter sugar price supports is the corn growers?

2)Arrested for bringing a knife to school, not for using a knife for cutting food. Most places have a "no tolerance" policy for the possession of weapons, which often include a definition of "blade longer than X inches" where X is usually two or three. Most table knives are four or more inches long.

3) Well, that is just stupid.
Dec. 18th, 2007 09:38 pm (UTC)
Wouldn't it have accomplished more, if the school had called the child’s parents in, and discussed the matter, instead of calling the police and having the poor little child arrested for a felony? I think so.
1 and 2 are just stupid, also.
Dec. 18th, 2007 06:55 pm (UTC)
My first question is what kind of stupid is the mayor? If he would only look at ingredient labels, he would see that 99% of everything that didn't just fall off a tree or be yoinked from the ground has high fructose corn syrup in it. MY GODDAMNED BREAD has high fructose corn syrup in it. Why bother with sodas as the target, when statistically, he can't prove it's the soda that's doing it. A soda-free kid is still inhaling a shit-ton of high fructose corn syrup in nearly everything else they eat. The "soda tax" as you describe and have noted, is really just another way to get money for a hidden agenda, or outright greed. Incidentally, Mayor Newsom had better be fit as a fucking fiddle to avoid the hypocrisy of corn syrup.

Dec. 18th, 2007 09:47 pm (UTC)
So, you wanna know what kind of stupid mayor this is? He's guy who slept with his best friend's wife and then admitted that he was an alcoholic.

Please keep it hush hush about bread, or these jerks will soon have the perfect excuse of labeling it as a sin food item, too, and tax us to death! :o)
Dec. 18th, 2007 09:47 pm (UTC)
1. Mayor Dumbass of San Franpsycho strikes again. His city has bigger problems than shopping bags and sodapop, but he'll never do anything about them. Nooo, easier to tackle the big, eeeevil corporations than the aggressive panhandlers who piddle on the sidewalks.

2. Schools are full of incompetent fools who are at the same time drunk on power as well as cowards of the highest magnitude. Ironically, it's this very same mindset that has lead to the school violence in recent years, where they'll only deal with the easy stuff because they're terrified of the real threats. They disgust me.

3. Your tax dollars at work, ladies and gentlemen.
Dec. 18th, 2007 10:10 pm (UTC)
And to think all these politicians are being paid with our tax dollars!

Yes, our tax dollars at its worst!
Dec. 18th, 2007 09:48 pm (UTC)
I'm being a radical and fighting the system by drinking a Coca-Cola!
Viva Coca-Cola!

Che Bakapooh ;)
Dec. 18th, 2007 10:07 pm (UTC)
The only problem with this is, that you and I will be paying out of our nose for a damn Coca Cola! It's impossible to beat the system, unless we start making our own Soda pops! :o)
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Dec. 19th, 2007 02:11 am (UTC)
And everyday, they continue to think of more ways of taking care of us.
Dec. 18th, 2007 11:21 pm (UTC)
I don't have a problem with banning plastic bags. If you ever have participated in a highway clean up, creek clean up, or just wandered around some bays you will see a million of them things around. They kill sea life, last forever and are easily replaced with canvas and hemp bags.

Good Riddance!

And frankly bottle water is ridiculous as well as wasteful, so I'm happy to see that go as well. Most cities have water that is perfectly fine, and all you are doing is paying for water from the tap with fancy packaging. Get a steel water or aluminum water bottle and quit adding to landfills with petroleum based bottles.


I hate the consumer b.s attitude in this god forsaken country at times.

Dec. 19th, 2007 12:54 am (UTC)
I agree with you about the plastic bags and bottle water. Mustn't forget disposable baby diapers, either. Many times, I've seen dirty diapers thrown on public places grounds.

I have this cold water apparatus that has a 5 gallon plastic jug which is filled with distilled water. Whenever I go out in the summer, I fill a little water thermo with water, and that's it.

What these politicians should start doing is finding ways of not polluting the earth, instead of our bodies.
Dec. 18th, 2007 11:31 pm (UTC)
I say we all get gov. issued canteens, titanium sporks ad knives and nylon woven tote bags.

* sarcasm
Dec. 19th, 2007 12:59 am (UTC)
You forgot the chalk and soda pop! heeeeeeee
Dec. 19th, 2007 12:33 am (UTC)
I have seen and heard stories like No.2 before. I hate those!!! That is the dumbest shit i have ever heard. This fear thing is the worst example of overkill and paranoia and is completely out of control. At the absolute worst they could have done like in the old days and just confiscated it and called her parents. Told them what happend and had them come pick it up or just get rid of it. Arresting her is just stupid. I know why they thought it was necessary but wasn't the right way to settle the situation.
Story No.3 is just pathetic. Whoever thought to issue the citation should hang their head in shame....
Dec. 19th, 2007 02:02 am (UTC)
What happened to this little girl, could have happened to any other little girl. All she did was cut her steak with a knife to eat it. She was too young to comprehend things, and instead of educating her on the subject, she's arrested with felony.
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Dec. 19th, 2007 01:03 am (UTC)
The city of San Fran is just trying to bilk more money from what ever source they can and claim 'public health' is why they are doing so. In reality they need more money to pay off those who paid to get Mayor Scumbag in office.
The chalk thing is silly. The first time it rains that chalk drawing goes away.

I can see the school's point about the knife. It can still be used as a weapon. Just cut the food at home and leave the knife at home.
Dec. 19th, 2007 02:09 am (UTC)
I just heard on the news something about protecting us against the ills of coffee. They feel that since the soda pop thingy as come up, it isn't fair to leave out coffee, since it has caffeine. Just watch and see how many more foods these politicians will think up as bad for us, and place a fee on those oodles of items, too.

As for the little girl with the knife, any fool can see that she didn't know any better, and if her mother packed her lunch, she didn't either, because if she knew the stink the school would create, she never would have done it in the first place.
Dec. 19th, 2007 02:57 am (UTC)
I cannot help thinking of that famous picture with the slogan "Big Brother Is Watching You" - these bastards want to run every aspect of our lives.

Mayor Newsom shouldn't tax our soda; he needs to grow a pair and tell parents to monitor what their fat-ass kids are eating and drinking! Now more than ever,we live in a society that promotes blaming everyone and everything but ourselves for our problems. I am overweight, and I have no one but myself to blame: a few less drinks, eating fewer fattening foods, and more excercize are what I need - not a politician blaming the producers of what I take in. Judas priest...
Dec. 19th, 2007 05:42 pm (UTC)
There are really only a few who blame everyone and everything for their down falls. These are the ones who start pointing fingers, and the government listens, and this is the reason we, the vast majority, lose some God given right.

Eventually, and sooner than we think, we WILL run EVERY aspect of our lives.
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