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America's Loyal and Disloyal

To The Pride of America!
President Bush and our BRAVE Men AND Women In Uniform!

I'm looking forward to watching "Saving Pvt. Lynch" on TV. All my prayers and well wishes to this brave girl, who somehow endured the torture placed on her, and a special thanks for the GI's who placed their lives in danger to save her. I can't remember where I found out that the monsters who held her captive were going to amputate one of her legs. Can someone please let me know it this was fact?

I'm also very grateful to all those brave young men and women who didn't make it.

It seem like an eternity when I wrote in my journal on Sunday, March 16th, 2003 the following:
"I am afraid. Tomorrow is March 17, 2003, Black Monday, the day when we'll find out if there's going to be a war or not.
I feel that nothing is going to stop it from happening. God be with our heroic troops, this country and President Bush."

Well, we did and thank goodness we did because now Saddam Hussein and his regime are history. Hopefully, the tyrant is dead. I'm bubbling over with pride over our troops, President Bush and America, the most envied and powerful country in the world. Also, my heartfelt graditude to the British, and to the British Prime Minister Tony Blair, America's best friend.

As for the Anti-War Demonstrators, who demonstrated by means of violence, how does it feel like to be eating crow now?

And as for those disgusting Americans who burned the American Flag, to demonstrate their warped disloyalties, THUMBS DOWN TO YOU! What a useless way of expressing freedom of speech, that all the BRAVE have fought for. There is no way in hell that I could ever respect the likes of you. If I feel this way about you, can you imagine how the families of those who sacrificed their lives for America and the Flag must feel about you.

From the very beginning, I placed all of my faith and trust in our troops and President Bush.

I'm also extremely happy to have had a couple of our American heroes, express their feelings in my journal. Thank you "Daddy" and "Spiffy - encryptedmind"

There was on man who obviously hates America and said something very ugly things about our American Flag. I looked up his LJ Users Info and was surprised to find he lives in the U.S.A. I can't for the life of me, figure out why he lives here. How I wish I had the power to send this guy to the 3rd world country my roots stem from. But then, that 3rd world country I speak of doesn't accept cowardly maggots.


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Apr. 18th, 2003 08:14 pm (UTC)
As for the Anti-War Demonstrators, who demonstrated by means of violence, how does it feel like to be eating crow now?

Easting crow about what? We were right to oppose the war and we're right to oppose the US military occupation of Iraq. 200,000 Iraqis in Baghdad also protested against the US occupation today.
Apr. 18th, 2003 08:45 pm (UTC)
Eating Crow - playgirl - Apr. 18th, 2003 10:14 pm (UTC) - Expand
Re: Eating Crow - darkphoenixrisn - Apr. 18th, 2003 11:02 pm (UTC) - Expand
Re: Eating Crow - tigron_x - Apr. 19th, 2003 04:14 pm (UTC) - Expand
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Apr. 18th, 2003 08:46 pm (UTC)
preach on.
i love president bush.
and the war was necessary.
America rules.
Apr. 19th, 2003 11:57 am (UTC)
heh i couldnt have put it better myself >:)
Apr. 18th, 2003 10:58 pm (UTC)
America, the only nation to arise not from a bonding of kinship...but from a bonding of ideals--the ideals of liberty and equality. There are other subsets of these ideals, but the vast majority of true Americans (in reference to the United States of course) hold true to the concepts of liberty and equality. As such, yes, Americans have the right to voice their opinions. Sadly, the Supreme Court has allowed the burning of the American flag to be protected under such liberty. I feel this is the same disgraceful decision as when the Supreme Court declared the Missouri Compromise unConstitutional during the Dred Scott case--prolonging slavery and ultimately contributing to the factors leading to the Civil War. However, I respect my government, and can only hope for another era shift in judicial review.

But...in the matter of the war. I also believe it was needed. No matter what speculation exists concerning the reasons behind the war, no one who pays any amount of attention can deny September 11. Are you so calloused that you would allow an attack on our own kin..those who are bonded to you--share the same ideals--go unchecked? If any other nation was slighted and wounded, their national kin would support them, have American's lost compassion and the bond amongst themselves? You may argue that conflicts can be resolved without weapons. Grow up. Look around you. Look at the facts. As a martial artist and teacher of the arts, I can relate to the decisions being made. I hold strongly to using violence only as the last resort...but sometimes...you just HAVE to fight. Words dont work, wont work. You cant make promises with terrorists, with those with a known track record of deception and backstabbing. It would only be a matter of time before we would have to defend ourselves against more wounds. Once a conflict is engaged, one can only take some many blocks and blows...as I teach my students, when it comes to a conflict...you can never win if you don't take an offense.

Liberty and equality only exist when people are responsible. I see the problem arising, and I grieve. As Americans lose their wills of taking responsibility and defending their ideals...we will lose more and more.

~<*>The Ninja<*>~
Apr. 19th, 2003 04:29 am (UTC)
Re: Needed
Are you so calloused that you would allow an attack on our own kin..those who are bonded to you--share the same ideals--go unchecked?

I appreciate your opinions but I must take exception to the above. To date, there has been no *credible* evidence linking Iraq to 9/11/01. 15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudi, not Iraqi. Bin Laden is a Saudi. And for your interest, big fat sacks of cash leaves this country daily from the pockets of otherwise loyal non-flag burning Americans to support terrorist organizations in Israel, Palestine, and Northern Ireland among other places.

Incidentally, where is Bin Laden? While we're high-fiving in Iraq, the worlds most-dangerous man is still free and terrorism still stalks the world. The fighting might be over in Iraq but the war we have started won't be finished for a while and I shudder to think of the costs.

As long as we keep applying the same neanderthal solutions, we will achieve the same horrific results. I will continue to pray for a more loving world where violence is not an alternative for anyone....and if you think it can't be done, study Ghandi :D
Re: Needed - darkphoenixrisn - Apr. 20th, 2003 04:11 am (UTC) - Expand
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Apr. 18th, 2003 11:03 pm (UTC)
Welcome back...
You and your kind words were missed.

One thing I have noted though, and this is just the rambelling on a red blooded AMERICAN male....

Its not surprising that many of those women who are in support of America, proud of the troops and their actions, and the President for doing a good job, do not hesitate to use their own pics as icons and proudly show Just how beautful they are. My Precious pet uses her own pic as well. She is beautiful, She loves our country as much as she loves me... and that is only ONE of the reasons I Love Her!!
Apr. 19th, 2003 03:45 am (UTC)
Re: Welcome back...
If you believe physical beauty to be any guarantor of intellectual or spiritual virtue, you're more brainwashed than I originally thought.

Re: Welcome back... - daddy - Apr. 19th, 2003 04:45 am (UTC) - Expand
Re: Welcome back... - amyura - Apr. 20th, 2003 08:05 pm (UTC) - Expand
Re: Welcome back... - ceciley - Apr. 22nd, 2003 10:11 am (UTC) - Expand
Yes I do find some women atrractive - daddy - Apr. 22nd, 2003 11:02 am (UTC) - Expand
see down the end of the page - ceciley - Apr. 22nd, 2003 01:22 pm (UTC) - Expand
answers from awhile back. - ceciley - Apr. 23rd, 2003 12:41 pm (UTC) - Expand
Apr. 19th, 2003 02:57 am (UTC)
As always, you state your opinion strongly and with conviction, and I cannot fault you for that. I know your opinions to be steadfast and retained in the face of much criticism, a certain portion coming from me.

I missed a few of your posts, as I was busy trying to create life instead of destroy it, but having returned I have read a few of your past posts, including quotes by R.W. Emerson and R.M. Nixon, and feel compelled to reply in kind with quotes from the same sources:

"...if there is another war there will be no victors, only losers."
-- Richard M. Nixon, in New York Times.

"When a president does it then it is not illegal."
-- Richard M. Nixon, CBS TV report.

"Democracy becomes a government of bullies, tempered by editors."
-- Ralph Waldo Emerson, Journals

In response to your well-meant (if slightly fascist) post, I will reply with my usual obscene and detestable effort to discredit any effort of a government which results in the deaths of innocents...
Apr. 19th, 2003 04:49 am (UTC)
I have to laugh when those who think themselves more intelligent than others use words that they have no real understanding of...
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Apr. 19th, 2003 03:34 am (UTC)
u havent answered my post, 'daddy'.u accused me of being a naive little school girl when i refered to bushes preisental election as a coup and his term as a dictatorship.if im not answered i'll assume im right, an no-one wants that do they?
oh, and by the way.playgirl, i totally admire u for being in the army.but i think u shud kbow, preisent bush and most of his admin (with the exception of colin powell-the most dove-ish of them, oddly enough) were determined draft-dogders in vietnam. nice to know hes aware of the horrors of war himself, eh? lets see, he wud be logging up his criminal record for drug use and drink driving about then.
Apr. 19th, 2003 10:40 am (UTC)
ceciley, I want you to know that I read every word you write in my journal with great interest. You bring out some very thought provoking issues. It is apparent to me that you've been doing alot of reading and studying. I would like to see more of your thoughts and ideas. Thank you! @:o)
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Apr. 19th, 2003 05:08 am (UTC)
"the most envied and powerful country in the world"

Most envied? I dont think so...
Most powerful? Because your country WASTES about 50% of the worlds total (HUUUUGE CASH NUMBERS!) military spendings on the army? Does a big army automaticly make a country the "most powerful"... NO WAY IN HELL! The country that needs the most annual cash wasted on their army, is in reality the LEAST POWERFUL country in the world. Because the most powerful country in the world, is some country that DONT need a huge military to feel like a great nation.

Ya know Ms, I could explain why your posts suck so much in foreign eyes. But i'll just do the short one to make you think about the "powerful" and your freakin army...

* When there are international disagreements and the US government cant solve the problems by use of diplomacy (brains & talk) or UN sanctioned actions (supported by the MAJORITY OF THE FREE WORLD) what is preferrable? Let's compare it with regular peoples everyday confrontations with their neighbours shall we. Perhaps with your previous post about a puppy dog getting kicked to death...!
Solution A:
Countries: Use the military and attack/invade countries.
Personal : Hit our neighbour in the face, pick up our handgun and shoot the neighbour, or why not... KICK THE NEIGHBOURS PUPPY DOG so the poor thing dies.

Solution B:
Countries: Use diplomacy, US, or at least NATO security council sanctioned actions.
Personal : Talk & use brains.

I say, without a shadow of a doubt, any country that repeatedly needs to use the A solutions is a CRAP country. The simple fact that USA once PUT SADDAM in control of Iraq makes the conflict even more ridiculous: Oh, we made a mistake, let's correct it... with guns.

MANY smaller nations are greater than the USA.

This is what military invasions do. You dont see this in US media, especially not now after the war is "won". But let me make clear to you, the US Army choosed to protect the Iraq Oil Department with their forces, but almost no other important places. No military protected the hospitals from getting everything stolen, same with internationally invaluable places like the Iraq National Library and the Iraq National Museum. The US politicians dont give a fuck about the Iraq people, there are other interests behind the conflict. Just look at the SPEED in wich a certain company "Haliburton" got $70 Billion worth contracts to save the oil wells in Iraq.

Is oil worth more than a few thousand (yes, THOUSANDS!) of civilian casualties? Apparently the worlds greatest nation think that way. Well, let me correct myself... i dont think everyone in USA thinks that way, but UNFORTUNATELY the old guys who run your country thinks exactly that way.

So far, NO weapons of mass destructions have been found in Iraq.
Wasnt that the original reason the army went there...?

Have fun with the US economy reports in the future. The record budget deficits, more unemployment, and similar stuff... is NOT because of Sept 11, NOT because of Saddam, it is because incompetent people rule the USA.
So... enjoy this one:
Apr. 19th, 2003 07:30 am (UTC)

Anonymous, please refrain from adding pictures to my journal. You added about 8 pics in my last entry and I had to delete the whole page. Those pics slow down my journal big time.</font>

You have no right to do so.

If you continue to add pics in MY journal, I will</font>

delete plus ban you from entering my journal.</font>

You are most WELCOMED to express your thoughts and views here.</font>

About the war... - attitudetravel - Apr. 19th, 2003 11:50 am (UTC) - Expand
Re: Anonymous NO PICTURES PLEASE! - (Anonymous) - Apr. 19th, 2003 01:21 pm (UTC) - Expand
Re: Anonymous NO PICTURES PLEASE! - playgirl - Apr. 19th, 2003 03:14 pm (UTC) - Expand
Re: Anonymous NO PICTURES PLEASE! - daddy - Apr. 20th, 2003 10:57 pm (UTC) - Expand
Re: Anonymous NO PICTURES PLEASE! - ceciley - Apr. 22nd, 2003 01:27 pm (UTC) - Expand
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Apr. 19th, 2003 11:48 am (UTC)
thank you
but i realy dont consider myself a hero...
im just a man who has a job and does what he is told
Apr. 19th, 2003 02:34 pm (UTC)
>>Quote from playgirl: >> I can't remember where I found out that the monsters who held her captive were going to amputate one of her legs. Can someone please let me know it this was fact?<<

She had her leg broken, and the Iraqi people do not have the proper medicine or healing power to have been able to help her because if I remeber correctly they were broken in too many places, so she would need reconstructive sergury(sp?). Amputating the leg will stop infections and such.

Apr. 19th, 2003 03:17 pm (UTC)
Thanks for the information!
Apr. 19th, 2003 05:42 pm (UTC)
As pointed out in an excellent comic strip, the name of which I can't remember...
Thank God for this war on terrorism, it's sure to end terrorism forever. Like that time when the U.S. declared its war on drugs, and now you can't get drugs anywhere!
Apr. 19th, 2003 09:50 pm (UTC)
Oh dear. playgirl was one of the people that turned up in my interests search...and I find all this...

I think the basic opposition to the war is based around...

a.) We have no right to take action in another country when it has consequences like this war did. Somewhere between 1700 and 2000 Iraqi civilians dead is a little harsh, especially given the fact that they didn't have any choice.

b.) If we're going to attack a country with the intent of liberating its people, we have to have a consistent standard. With the logic used to justify this war, we should be attacking China, Saudi Arabia, and probably God right about now.

c.) The pre-emptive strike policy is garbage. If Pakistan and India accept our policy as their own, there's going to be nuclear war, and sooner then later. Besides, what's to stop another country from striking pre-emptively to the pre-emptive strike? It's basically free rein to attack anyone who might attack us. This also would've created nuclear war with Russia a few decades ago.

Given all this, that guest up there who posted images of hurt children and all that is full of crap. He/she makes it seem like soldiers go in there with the intent of shooting at women and children for sport. Extremists are idiots.
Apr. 19th, 2003 10:55 pm (UTC)
Are these oppositions you hold or just observations of others?

if these are your oppositions...

>>>b.) If we're going to attack a country with the intent of liberating its people, we have to have a consistent standard. With the logic used to justify this war, we should be attacking China, Saudi Arabia, and probably God right about now.<<<

What logic is that?

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Apr. 20th, 2003 04:20 am (UTC)
Hopefully, the tyrant is dead.

He is. Of that I have no doubt.
Apr. 20th, 2003 01:46 pm (UTC)
But so is salam pax-i like(d?) him; he was lucid and erudite and intelligent and suitably cynical about EVERYONES intentions-and now he hasnt updated his journal since march 24th.see www.dear_raed.blogspot.com.oh god please god dont let him be dead please please please.
dont read this as a criticism of the war-though as i have made clear i am strongly against it-its just a public expression of...well, grief, i guess.
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Apr. 21st, 2003 06:19 pm (UTC)
Well seeing how our governmnet can't go around saing what Saddam was gonna do and go stop him for that reason, they need facts to go on. Hence the reason why we said Saddam is in violation of Resolution 1411. Which he was, and because of that, we have right to go in there. Ultimitly the war was/is for free market and to not allow Saddam to have control over the world market by him withholding the oil until the world had to go him for it which then he super inflates the prices and takes control over the world money. You know, the same money you spend on your house or pay the government to protect you. He basically could say how much that money is worth just because of oil. He could buy the world with oil and turn you into a slave as you try to pay off your mortgage and such. I hope you get the point as to why we're there now.
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Apr. 21st, 2003 03:18 pm (UTC)
All I can say is amen! Could you possibly give me the html thing for the waving flag? I want to put it in my journal!
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