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March 16th, 2003, March 17th, 2003, March 30th, 2003

God bless our troops, America, President Bush and his administration!

Thank God for the safe return of America's hero, PFC. JESSICA LYNCH!
And to the rest of our HEROES, who didn't make it, our hearts are sadden by the price you have paid for your country:

Spc. Jamaal R. Addison, 22, Roswell, Ga.
Pfc. Howard Johnson II, 21, Mobile, Ala.
Master Sgt. Robert J. Dowdy, 38, Cleveland, Ohio
Pvt. Ruben Estrella-Soto, 18, El Paso, Texas
Spc. James M. Kiehl, 22, Comfort, Texas
Chief Warrant Officer Johnny Villareal Mata, 35, El Paso, Texas
Pfc. Lori Ann Piestewa, 23, Tuba City, Ariz.
Pvt. Brandon Ulysses Sloan, 19, Bedford, Ohio
Sgt. Donald Ralph Walters, 33, Salem, Ore. Prisoner of War:
Spc. Edgar Adan Hernandez, 21, Mission, Texas
Spc. Joseph Neal Hudson, 23, Alamogordo, N.M.
Spc. Shoshana Nyree Johnson, 30, El Paso, Texas
Pfc. Patrick Wayne Miller, 23, Walter, Kan.
Sgt. James Joseph Riley, 31, of Pennsauken, N.J.

To The Pride of America!
Our BRAVE Men AND Women In Uniform!

One person left a couple of links in my journal about certain individuals who feel that it's great for Americans to burn the American Flag.
I wonder if these Americans would have the guts to burn the flag in the presence of ALL the American Soldiers who have served their country. I KNOW not!! I'll bet my bottom dollar that these people have NEVER, nor WILL EVER, join the United States armed forces.

During times of war, this is what separates the men from the mice:
The HEROIC serve their country out of a sense of patriotic duty.
The Flag burner burns the American Flag out of a WARPED sense of patriotic duty.

The actions of an American burning the American Flag, is an EXTREME and VILE action. I just can't understand what they feel they have accomplished by doing so. The majority of Americans find it to be a slap in the face.

"nyarbaggytep" feels I go too far by my calling an American Flag burner a "delicate piece of tissue paper not worth spitting on." I believe my statement is much TOO MILD an insult. The flag is JUST a little piece of cloth, but it signifies so much. Every stitch consists of blood shed by the MULTITUDE of fathers, mothers, sons, daughters, brothers, sisters, etc., who have sacrificed their lives since the birth of America.

If a man hasn't discovered
something that he will die for,
he isn't fit to live.
Martin Luther King, Jr.

This unique country is the melting pot of the world and the home of all cultures, religions, nationalities, and races, of the world. America is the most powerful and envied country in the world.

I am an American and live here in the United States, only by the grace of God. This country has given me everything I could ever hope for and I shall ALWAYS remain GRATEFUL and LOYAL.

The FEW Americans who stoop so low as to burn the American Flag, need to live a couple of months in one of those 3rd world countries. I can assure you that they won't DARE burn a flag there. They'd CRAWL like RATS back to the U.S. at the first opportunity! I can almost assure you that they would never again even think of burning our flag again and would start counting their blessing for being an American.

This quote is PERFECT for Those Anti-American's that bad-mouth the United States and who burn the American Flag:

The characteristic of a genuine heroism is its persistency.
All men have wandering impulses, fits and starts of generosity.
But when you have resolved to be great, abide by yourself,
and do not weakly try to reconcile yourself with the world.
The heroic cannot be common, nor the common heroic.
Ralph Waldo Emmerson.

A Vietnam Veteran called "daddy" wrote in my journal and I want to thank him for sharing his experiences while in Vietnam. Instead of giving them a heroes welcome, they were treated horribly. It is men and women such as these who have truly contributed to the United States by putting their lives on the line. "daddy," Semper fidelis!

"No event in American history is more misunderstood than the Vietnam War. It was misreported then, and it is misremembered now. Rarely have so many people been so wrong about so much. Never have the consequences of their misunderstanding been so tragic." - Nixon

All MIA/POWs should have the Purple Heart, because all have paid for it with their lives." - Larry J. Brugh

It is NOT the critic who counts;
not the man who points out how
the strong man stumbled, or where
the doer of deeds could have done
better. The credit belong to the
man who is actually in the ARENA;
whose face is marred by DUST and
SWEAT and BLOOD; who strives
VALIANTLY; who errs and comes
short again and again; who
knows the great enthusiasms,
the great devotions, and
spends himself in a WORTHY cause;
who at the best knows in the
end the triumph of high
achievement; and who at the
worst, if he fails, at least
fails while daring greatly;
so that his place shall NEVER
be with those COLD and TIMID
souls who know NEITHER VICTORY
Theodore Roosevelt


September 11


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Apr. 6th, 2003 05:28 pm (UTC)
People who burn flags are enaging in Constitutionally protected speech. There's nothing anti-American about free speech, no matter the content.
Apr. 6th, 2003 07:10 pm (UTC)
I agree.
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Apr. 6th, 2003 06:24 pm (UTC)
::applause again::
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My <lj-user "daddy"> and I bought stickers for our cars this weekend while visiting a local Gun/Knife show. They have the POW/MIA flag on it with the following message:

"It's OK to Burn the U.S. Flag, as long as you wrap yourself in it first"

I love my Daddybear... Thank you for mentioning him. BTW: He was a Navy man, not a Marine ::grinning:: But that's OK... He says it's understood...

Remember folks... FREEDOM ISN'T FREE!
Apr. 6th, 2003 06:30 pm (UTC)
Flag burning
I believe it is disgusting to see any one burn our nation's flag. If someone likes another nation so much, let him move there.

Apr. 6th, 2003 07:04 pm (UTC)
I rsepectfuly disagree. Let me preface my statement with a little family history. Both of my grandfathers served during WWII, my father served for 22 years, and I have been in the army for the past five years. I love the Flag and still get misty eyed hearing the national anthem. I believe It is a terrible thing for the flag to drag the ground let alone burn. That said, I believe I serve so that, every american can have the right to non-violent protest (among other reasons). This unfortunately means they should have the right to say things I disagree with and do things I might find repulsive. The ideas and beliefs embodied in our flag do not reside there. They reside in in my heart. The flag is but a symbol. When people burn the flag in protest they do not burn my beliefs with it. Would I kick some ass if a protester burned the flag in front of me? No. I would be disapointed and I would be sadened. It actualy bothers me more to see protesters attacking the police.

I agree many of these people need to go live elsewhere for a while. I have found when talking with anti-war people that often thier arguments are naive, and uneducated. I guess I'm lucky to have broader world view than many of my countryman because I moved (a lot) growing up. I lived in Germany in the late 80's early 90's. I have lived history. I was in berlin 3 days before reunification. I believe that people should live elswhere for a while not as punishment but as an education.
Apr. 15th, 2003 06:04 am (UTC)
wow, the voice of sanity amongst troth. Nice one mate :)

(no sarcasm either!!)
Apr. 6th, 2003 10:00 pm (UTC)
God Bless them for fighting not only for this country, but for God and for the freedom of the world.
Apr. 21st, 2003 03:30 pm (UTC)
Apr. 7th, 2003 12:30 am (UTC)
I've yet to hear one good reason for an American citizen to burn the American flag.
Apr. 7th, 2003 10:05 am (UTC)
Um, that burning is the proper means of disposal for a worn-out flag?
(no subject) - burningblue - Apr. 7th, 2003 10:26 am (UTC) - Expand
Apr. 7th, 2003 06:34 am (UTC)
at last, a true patriot
I am new to this live journal thing and was searching for people with similar interests. Your journal came up, and I read some of it. I have to say "Thank You!" I too support our troops and our President. My husband is a former paratrooper. He was in the 82nd Airborne and actually saw combat. We recently signed up to "Adopt a Soldier" and are waiting to hear back about that.

It kills me that so many people who use, sometimes abuse, and take for granted their Constitutional rights have no concept of the price paid for those rights. A price THEY never paid. OOOOHHHHH NO, I feel a huge rant coming on; I better stop now.

Thank you for your service to our country.

- shakespearienced
Apr. 7th, 2003 01:31 pm (UTC)
What, no gratitude for the 30 British soldiers killed in Iraq - 21 of them by US "friendly fire"?

Typical bloody American.
Apr. 8th, 2003 02:56 am (UTC)
gratitude for the 30 British soldiers killed in Iraq
I am sure I speak for all Americans when I say, "I'm sorry!!"
Apr. 8th, 2003 12:15 am (UTC)
Not really a comment...
Just a hello. I'm a live journal newbie. You were tops on my "friend's interests" list. I just wanted to say hello.

Apr. 8th, 2003 02:57 am (UTC)
This quote is PERFECT
Apr. 9th, 2003 08:56 am (UTC)
am i reading this??? u should ALL BE DISGUSTED!
how can u support an illegal war run by an un-elected dictator?!
v.apprioate of u to quote NIXON of all ppl...we all know what he was up to.*cough-watergate!cough*
i support the troops-BRING THEM HOME!we were all so quick to leave the bloodied 2oth century behind, and barely 3 years later we start again.havent we learnt ANYTHING about warfare? not even that bombs kill children not dictators? can we bomb america then? bush didnt win the election.is it really the american way to go to war for OIL AND REVENGE?how old are we? 6?im ashamed to be british.
Apr. 9th, 2003 04:08 pm (UTC)
What revenge?

Go back to school and learn something about world markets, trading in the market, and how oil effects it. As well as who has the last reserve of oil. Then you might realize what this war is about. I'll give you a little hint..."Free Market" The Iraqi people get the oil and they get to trade it under a free Iraq. Who other then Saddam loses here?

Dead Iraqi people + Dead Coalition Soldiers + Death of Saddam Regim = the price of Iraq's freedom + justice to their suffering.

Freedom is priceless and so are lives, but that makes sense as to why freedom cost lives.

What doesnt make sense:
Enslavement under Saddam causes so much life suffering and lives that you wouldn't even begin to imagine how greatful you would be just to say what you just said if you were in Iraq before the war. But, yet you feel free to share your uneducated misunderstood point of view.

Didnt you know the world averages at least one war every 20 years? What is 21 some magic number that stops wars all of a sudden? The only cool thing about 21 is you can legally drink in America, and that even may start bar fights.

There is going to be more blood shed in the years to come.

Don't worry tho, the British are ashamed of you too. BTW you can take "cough-watergate!cough* and shove it up your *** because all it proves is why the American Constitution doesn't allow anyone to be above the Law.

Freedom of Speech...aint it great?
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Apr. 13th, 2003 01:04 am (UTC)
Thank you
I am an american sailor presently forward deployed to assist in operation Iraqi freedom and just wanted to drop a line and say thank you for your support

CTR3 Brown USN
presently onboard USS ANZIO (CG-68)
Apr. 15th, 2003 04:29 pm (UTC)
4.0 job 1 attaboy for you.
As a NAVY vet I just wanted to let you know, there are more of those who support you, than those who do not... unfortunately CNN and the like will give them more press.
Typical... It was the same was during Nam...

Just a simple and sincere THANKS! from an old Enterprise Crewman AO2 AW, who is soundly behind you and all who sail with you across the seven seas.

Thank You for Volunteering and serving Proudly!

Re: 4.0 job 1 attaboy for you. - encryptedmind - Apr. 15th, 2003 04:37 pm (UTC) - Expand
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Apr. 15th, 2003 04:29 am (UTC)
Dear stupid people...
Fine to talk about freedom. Fine to talk about liberation. And how many of you have actually lived without freedom, and under an evil regime?

Its all big talk - support our troops, theyre out there saving out lives and future. I believe a synonym for the above is 'bullshit' You know not of what its like to live under the conditions which your so quick to dismiss, based purely on the bullshit your being told from the TV stations, who in turn, havent lived under an evil regime, and thus know nothing. "From the idiot to the fool" springs to mind.

Personally, ive lived under a regime. There was a distint lack of freedom, there was a distint lack of equality. But actually, it was nothing like what the televisions are spouting back in the UK and the US. And in fact, it wasnt really all that evil. Hugely unfair, hugely baised, but hey - the class system in the UK and US hasnt totally died out either really have they?

Yeah, bring the troops home - safely thank you. But dont support the fucks. The troops are killing people, and isnt that the same as what one Saddam Hussein was doing? Well, we can start a 'war on terror' on the brits and the yanks soon enough.

And more of this "spout forth your bullshit" is largely apparent in the naming of your 'heroes'. JESSICA LYNCH managed to get herself caught, and for one womans sake the special forces go in on their own will, without command or instruction, and put THIER lives at risk to save Jessica.

But Jessica gets named a hero and awarded a medallion, and the special forces are simply sent off with a thank you.

Are you noticing the hypocrisy?

As for burning the american flag, Im disgusted by the person that would do such a thing. (yes, thats right, im NOT anti-american) The flag of any country represents something to be held onto and cherised, and is a symbol of unity the nation over, the whole nation united under one flag and so on. May the people who burn any flags one day realise their stupidity.

And, dear Americans, this is why the world sometimes hate you....

"America is the most powerful and envied country in the world."


America is the most richest nation in the world mainly due to the fact that in World Wars 1 and 2, and in the cold war, they sold WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION (oooh, where did they come from?) to countries like the UK, France, Italy and Germany (see: world war 1 and 2) and WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION to countries like Iraq and Saudi Arabia (see: cold war, wars on russia)

Well done on your riches, it must feel nice to know you made your money by fuelling this 'axis of evil' Actually, seeing as you sold them all weapons, arent you really the ones leading the 'axis of evil'?

Interesting thought. Ponder it sometime.
Apr. 15th, 2003 06:47 am (UTC)
Re: Dear stupid people...
And one more thing Since you are sprouting WW1 and WW2 read about the Lend Lease Act where the U.S. GAVE the British Empire a shit load of Destroyers so they could protect the convoys and fend off the German U boats, also read about War Debts abd Reparations where the US gave Great Britian AID so they could rebuild London after the German V1 and V2 Rockets about decimated it. THEN read about HOW the US helped rebuild MOST of Europe and Japan after the WAR. OH by the way Great Britian, like France and Germany and ALL but one Country in Europe still OWE the U.S. re-payments from the Money we gave them after WW2 to do all this rebuilding.

You also might just find that if it was not for the US entering the War against Nazi Germany it is quite possible that England would have been the next victim of the Blitz Kreig, and then possibly the FIRST victim of the German Atomic Bomb. The German Heavy Water Experiments were farther along than many people realise.

Above the gates at the Nazi Prison Camp in Dacheau the words are carved by the Jewish Prisoners that were liberated by the US Army.
"Those who forget the lessons of the past are doomed to re-live them" I suggest you learn a little History before you continue to make foolish statements.
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Apr. 16th, 2003 01:15 pm (UTC)
I came across this lj by looking for people wih similar interests.
At first, I didn't want to leave a message, but now, after looking over the most recent posts and comments, I feel I have to. I don't have enough time to comment on every comment directly, and I try to make it short. My post is inspired by all your posts.I will probably not write everything in detail,so feel free to reply and I will if requested.

Whatever a person writes in her lj is his/her own business, still he/she has to understand that public posts are in fact public, and that people will reply.
I have never seen a lj in which people were so unfriendly towards each other and so intolerating of different opinions.

My background: I am European. I am a macroeconomist. I am a politician. I am free.

People in Iraq are not free, and we have to help them. I guess everybody agrees with me here.
They could have been freed with diplomatic pressure.
Now I am asking myself, why were some countries not willing to make this effort? Economic reasons? Political reasons?
Some facts: America will not have any oil left in 10 years if they go on using it the way they do now. 4 years if they only use their own ressources from now on. The Iraq has the 2nd largest ressources in the whole world.
Economy isn't very well in the States. This is never good for the image of a government.
We will see. I hope the US will not try to profit economically from this war. I hope they did what they did because of love to people. But I have doubts. We'll see.
Apart from that, in war there is no winner. Humanity is lost on both sides. I once believed that people from free countries, who are more or less privileged to make up their own mind, to follow social developpment in history and to have the freedom of choice, that those people wouldn't support the right of the strongest, agree that people kill other people. No matter which nationality they are.
Apr. 16th, 2003 01:17 pm (UTC)
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But we have the possiblity to know that. Others do not.
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Apr. 16th, 2003 01:19 pm (UTC)
It's funny you came up number 2 on a similar interest search, yet we seem very different. Anyway I think it's great to stand up for what you believe and fight for what you believe is right. I do not believe this war to be right though. I believe it to be unnecessary and wrong. Thier is nothing I can do about it so I just pray it all ends peacefully very soon. Well just though I'd say hi, have a nice day:)
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