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Thin? Skinny? Sticks? What the hell goes on here?

Women who are plump, chubby, or fleshy find it insulting and unacceptable to be called specific offensive words to describe their physic. So why aren't such words as thin, skinny sticks, etc., not insulting to those of us who are? Why is it okay to express catty remarks about thin being ugly, and what makes you think we aren't considered sexy also, just because we're thin, skinny or skeletons?

To criticize and mock someone because of their size, whether it be small or large, is down right rude and cruel.

Let me educate you on the subject of weight and physical appearance, which seems to be an obsession to many. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and thanks God for this. Some find fat sexy, some find plump sexy, some find thin sexy, and yes, some find STICKS sexy, too.

What you should do is put more importance on what's in side the over all package of a person.

So why is there so much emphasis on the size of the package? I have always found that what's inside is what counts, and is what TRULY makes a person beautiful or ugly.

Just as there are girls who constantly diet because they are overweight, doesn't mean the SKINNY ones don't have a problem, also.

Whether we're OVERweight or UNDERweight, we all have some type of eating disorder. There are some of us who have health issues such as me. I have diabetes, and can't eat all the goodies I'd like to, because if I do, I will DIE. What would I give to be able to eat a WHOLE banana instead of half, or a bowl of Fruity Pebbles or a flour tortilla, but I can't! I HATE not being able to eat TWO regular size pieces of pizza. I hate having to settle for only ONE SMALL slice and then having to go out and run in hopes of bringing my blood sugar down!

I don't call overweight people all those RUDE and NASTY words overweight people find so offensive, so why do you think you have the right to degrade those of us who are underweight?

Let’s get over ourselves! There are MANY more things of importance that need attention, than to be so concerned how sexy you are because you have FLESH on your bones or not!!

None of us have the right to demean and insult thin people or big people. It really doesn't matter what size any of us are. When our day comes to die, we’ll all be equally the same – BONES!

NONE of us are perfect, and besides, there's always someone out there who finds us SEXY, no matter what SIZE we are!

What are your thoughts on the horizontal size of a person?!

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Feb. 3rd, 2007 09:00 pm (UTC)
i've had to deal with that crap even being a guy. i've endured endless grief and resentment from people because of my thin frame. people have constantly joked that i have a eating disorder.

it used to bother me and make me feel bad about my body but now i realize that a lot of it came from jealousy and envy. i agree that the inside is what matters but i've also learned that the only person i'm going to worry about satisfying in regards to the exterior is me. people can take it or leave it but i'm happy with the way i am. so i know exactly what you're talking about.
Feb. 4th, 2007 08:01 pm (UTC)
And that's what matters most; feeling good about ourselves.

I had a heck of a time being made fun of when I was in elementary school, because I was considered tall, which I really wasn't. I looked tall because I was so thin. That's another form of abuse; when people make fun of your height.
(no subject) - neo_prodigy - Feb. 4th, 2007 09:33 pm (UTC) - Expand
Feb. 3rd, 2007 09:02 pm (UTC)
When I was a kid, I was apparently alarmingly skinny. I was a very very fussy eater. Most of the food world just didn't appeal to me. The texture and taste of too many things just made me sorta yark, like it'd be to put a fresh cowpie in your mouth. Gooshy goo with no appeal.

So as a result, I got the "skinny" teasing that you describe. People were as rude, if not moreso, to point out my faults as a skinny kid than they did for fat kids. I realized then that the insecure people of the world (who were in no impressive shape, themselves...) needed something to feel ok, and that meant to pick on either side of the mediocre physique they were.

As far as size (over/under) being sexy, I'm probably some insensitive bastard for valuing half mind, half body as sexy. In other words, physically, if you are not my ideal, there's no sexual attraction regardless of how sexy your mind is. On the flip side, sexual attraction matched at the physical level is only good for one orgasm before an unattractive mind ruins it.

I'm one to like women a bit on the leaner side. Proportionate, but thin. Built for speed. Not emaciated in an unhealthy way, but simply sleeker curves and less boob & butt than their polar opposites.

I'm not even sure I can express my views (without starting a catfight) on the non-skinny liberation going on lately in fashion modeling or just in general. Everyone's got a valid point, but any sort of zealotry one way or the other tips the balance disproportionately. It's a can of worms I don't want to open. If everyone were proportionate, half the world would still be left wanting for disproportion.

But now I'm getting way off track. Simply put, as a skinny kid that's no longer skinny, I know what you're talkin' about.

Feb. 4th, 2007 08:13 pm (UTC)
I was the same way as a kid, and would ask myself why it was that we had to eat to live. When I got into my teen’s I started enjoying food and became of average weight. Then after I completed my tour with the Army, I developed diabetes, and that has kept me from eating many things. I’ve now found that I’ve lost weight, and I’m not happy about it. This is why it upsets me to no end when some people try to shove it down our throats that they are sexier because they have flesh on their bones. Many of us have health issues and can’t help what we are.

As for the models people are making fun of as late, they are thin because they must be, or else they’ve had it career wise. Some have Bulimia or Anorexia, which are illnesses they can’t help. To call those of us who are thin, skeletons is down right mean! The same goes for those who make fun of people who are overweight!

I’m sorry you were teased for being skinny as a child. Are you still thin?
(no subject) - photosexual - Feb. 4th, 2007 08:48 pm (UTC) - Expand
Feb. 3rd, 2007 09:07 pm (UTC)
I would not call a thin girl a bad name, or a fat girl. Or a guy either.

I have to say though, I am often the 'fat girl' with whoever I am hanging out with, and I have gotten a LOT of insults. Not so much in recent years, but I have been walking down the street (generally at night this happens when we are out) and had comments such as fat bitch, heifer etc etc.

And just because I find it insulting, doesn't mean that it doesn't happen. It happens A LOT. But something I realise is that if I looked different, if someone was so inclined they would find something else to look down upon.

Part of the underlying issue with fat people is that rudeness/hatred/whatever is institutionalised. Being fat is seen as a ... almost a moral issue! fat people viewed as lazy, stupid etc etc. I mean, how often (and easily) do the insults "fat" and "ugly" go together? (most of the time I don't think I am ugly :)

I totally agree with you though - there are many and much more important things than our size. And attraction is about more than looks. There have been people that I have not been instantly attracted too, but the more I know them, the more sexy they become.

I am sorry that someone is being a bastard to you. :(

Feb. 4th, 2007 10:50 pm (UTC)
I have dated guys who have been described as babes, and in the end, I found them to be most unattractive, because I found them to be totally into themselves and with zero personality. I once dated a guy that actually posed like a model. He thought he was Gods gift to women. Another time, I caught one looking at himself in a girl’s compact mirror!!

I’ve dated guys who have been both underweight and over, and who weren’t considered particularly good looking, but after dealing with them for a while, I found them absolutely gorgeous and oh so very sexy.

Good looks and sexiness exudes from within. Good grooming is all that matters to the opposite sex. There are guys who go for heavy girls, while there are others who prefer thin ones.

What I have found, throughout my life, is that those girls who are critical of other girls, are the ones who should take a good hard look in the mirror.

I have been reading way too many nasty comments about heavy and thin people lately, and it angers me. What these people must realize is that there are people with MANY different tastes; some find fleshy sexy, and others find bones sexy. Some like big boobs, while others like small or medium ones. Some find big butts sexy, while others find small butts sexy, too. Just because they’re fleshy, doesn’t mean they are considered sexy by all.

I just wish these people would stop making comments about a person’s weight – PERIOD. Criticism is fine, BUT only when it’s constructive criticism. Criticism intended to hurt, is down right diabolical.

I have seen your pictures, and I find you extremely sexy. As for your face, it is beautiful. You have a great sense of humor and you have a compassionate heart. All in all, you have it all!
(no subject) - sweeny_todd - Feb. 5th, 2007 12:07 am (UTC) - Expand
Feb. 3rd, 2007 09:09 pm (UTC)
I prefer positive words like "slender" and "voluptuous" to describe smaller and larger women, respectively. Beauty is truly in the eyes of the beholder. Weight (higher or lower) is a health (i.e., objective) issue, and not a beauty (i.e., subjective) issue. My personal preference is for more voluptuous (and especially busty) women, but I've known beautiful women of all shapes and sizes (and yes, of course smaller-breasted women can be beautiful, too). :-)

Your point is well taken, though. One doesn't support larger people by denigrating smaller ones. There's nothing wrong with having a preference, but it's easy to express it positively rather than negatively. Imagine how many bad feelings would be averted if folks said the perfectly acceptable "he or she is not really my type" instead of "he or she is too fat/skinny/ugly."
Feb. 5th, 2007 02:37 pm (UTC)
And those are the words that we are suppose to use about ones own preference.

I believe all women are beautiful, no matter what their size. What counts are good grooming, personality, and courtesy, and the same goes for men.

Words can be most hurtful, and when a man or woman uses words to describe another, as heifer or a skeleton! All of us posses many different qualities; some are good, and some are bad.

These heartless people who use words to hurt people’s feelings must remember that it is very true, when it’s said that beauty is IN the eye of the beholder!
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Feb. 3rd, 2007 10:03 pm (UTC)
I love women. I love big women, small women, skinny women, thick women, tall women, short women. Why discriminate?
Feb. 4th, 2007 08:20 pm (UTC)
I feel the same about men. I love them in all sizes! :o)
Feb. 3rd, 2007 11:20 pm (UTC)
"So why is there so much emphasis on the size of the package?"

Seems to be a female pattern (at least I'm never interested in the size of one's package. But if you are talking about the body size I agree with you. Small or large, everybody has to be something and they are all good.
Feb. 8th, 2007 05:39 pm (UTC)
One thing I've noticed is that females are much more critical about other female’s size and built.

How sad! If people would put more emphasis on character, than the physical, we would all be much healthier.
Feb. 3rd, 2007 11:35 pm (UTC)
Human trafficking... nasty stuff. For all the talk about slavery that happened 150 years ago, the silence around the current-day situation worldwide is maddening.
Feb. 4th, 2007 08:21 pm (UTC)
It's happening more than we can imagine!
Feb. 4th, 2007 02:40 am (UTC)
I'm fat plain and simple. I hear stupid ass jokes at work like they would have gotton me a red rain suit so they could yell "HEY KOOLAID." I don't let it bother me because they are fucking idiots. Like with anything if people are gonna be fat then don't let what people say bring them down. I know a lot of large women who are proud of their size and let it roll of their shoulders. Depends on the strength of the persons esteem i suppose. Me i don't like being fat. I don't have any motivation to lose weight so i don't ever bother. In that respect i have no one to blame but myself. So that means i have to suffer all the ill health effects that are associated with being the weight i am and thats my own fault.
Feb. 5th, 2007 02:24 pm (UTC)
I find that those who make hurtful remarks about a person’s body are the ones who are most insecure of themselves.

They have no earthly idea that they are an open book to everyone else.

Its one thing to give constructive criticism because we care about someone’s health, than to criticize in a hurtful way, to make oneself feel better about ones own imperfections.
Feb. 4th, 2007 03:16 am (UTC)
slightly off topic, but this was brought to mind by your post.

I am alarmed by the fact that when a child is super skinny the welfare alarms are sounded and child abuse due to malnutrion comes into question. And yet nothing is done for all of these poor children who are suffering morbid obesity because of thier parents poor nutritional choices. It is just as easy, perhaps even more so due to poor eating habits, for a child who overeats to be malnourished. I really do think this is a form of child abuse.

One of my goals in life is to get nutrition, food preperation and healthy eating habits taught from first grade alone with english and math. Food related illness is the number one killer in the western world and yet it simple is not being addresses in an adequate way. No one ever died of not being able to know thier 8 times tables.

Feb. 5th, 2007 12:03 am (UTC)
Re: malnutrition
actually I have heard of some kids being taken off their parents because they are fat.

I also think we are too quick to judge the parents based on the size of the kids. Some kids are chubby, some kids are skinny. It depends on a lot of things. We should be pushing being healthy. I think that kids are less active because parents are fearful. When I was a kid we would go cycling, have to be home when the street lights were on and that was fine. Now people are terrified of kids being snatched etc etc.
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Feb. 4th, 2007 04:09 am (UTC)
You know what I find sexy Savanah well that is you! But you knew that all ready :o)

But to get serious about what you are talking about here.
I have been skinny and I have been fat and I found out along time ago that,
It is what is in side that matters and there are people that are going to say crap about you when your skinny or fat but what really matters is why they are saying these things in the first place, and a lot of the times you will find out it is the same people that do not have a good thing to say about you either way, but I have found that there are more people that will laugh at you when your fat and act like you can not hear them or that you just do not have any feelings. But if you confront them you always say well it is for your own good? We all know that is just a bunch of bull they are just trying to make them self's feel better buy putting someone else down..

Now the human slave trade is some thing that I just do not get why we cannot find away to stop, and I hope she is ok too!
Feb. 5th, 2007 02:44 pm (UTC)
You always manage to bring a smile to my face!

It matters not if a person is skinny or fat, and this is what these people who make reference to them in a nasty manner should realize.

As for the human slave trade, it will never stop, because it's too profitable. If this beautiful Brazilian woman was abducted for this purpose, the culprits made a hell of a lot of money.
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Feb. 5th, 2007 09:07 am (UTC)
What are your thoughts on the horizontal size of a person?!

I don't care much about a gal's body type. Though I do tend to prefer curvy gals. I think you should chase what you like. But it is just stupid to call people names for their body type.

I hope that gal is found and is ok. I hope she just eloped and is ok partying in Ibeza with her new hubby or something.

Feb. 5th, 2007 02:17 pm (UTC)
It's not only stupid, but cruel to call people names because of their body types. And to assume that just because you're fleshy, you're sexier than those who are thin, are downright shallow! Same goes for those who assume they're sexier because they're thinner than those who are fleshier.

What these people must realize is that everyone has different tastes.

As for the missing woman, it just doesn't sound good. I hope I'm wrong.
Feb. 5th, 2007 09:11 am (UTC)
I didn't know you were a diabetic. I wish they had a cure for that. Diabetis runs on my father's side of the family. So I have to be carefull with my weight so I don't get the old age version of it. I feel for you love.
Feb. 5th, 2007 01:50 pm (UTC)
Diabetes is such a horrible and incurable disease. Please be careful, and take the test on a yearly basis, because some may already have it without realizing it.

Diabetes runs on both sides of my family, plus my mother was Hispanic, so my chances were much greater of getting it. I've read that if you walk a certain amount of miles, it will help greatly that you don't become a diabetic.

Since your father is a Diabetic, learn everything you can about it, in order to try and avoid getting it.

Diabetes is among the 10 leading causes of death.
Feb. 5th, 2007 02:32 pm (UTC)
So why aren't such words as thin, skinny sticks, etc., not insulting to those of us who are?

Because those words are not insulting unless one is anorexic. I really hate to point this out to you, but the fact is it many times times better to be too thin than too fat in our society.

If you want proof, just watch "Clueless" and tell me which girl was anorexic during the filming. This woman went on to say how everyone told her how great she looked.

Remember, "thin" is a compliment and "fat" is an insult in America. Fit is better than thin. Fit is better than fat. Thin is better than fat. Fit > thin > fat.

Don't believe me? Check out the personal ads. Yahoo is a good place to start. Look through the "Body type" section of what people are looking for, especially women. "Muscular, Fit, Average, and Thin" is the prevalent theme.

Look at television and movies. Fat people are for comedy 95% of the time. Fat people are slow, stupid, lazy slobs on TV. Find a fat hero who isn't overcoming their weight. Look at the American version of Ugly Betty. 50% of the U.S. is overweight, but on Lost there is a single fat guy. For an eye opener, get a DVD of "Shallow Hal" and hear what happened when Gwenneth Paltro when out in her Rosemary fat suit and makeup.

Look in stores. Fat people pay more for clothes, and have a harder time find clothes. Fat people receive less respect and worse service thin people. Fat people get hired less and and at lower rate of pay and are promoted less than thin people.

See, it is considered socially acceptable to make fun of fat people. Their are three groups that fall into that category of "ok to make fun of, mean or not."
White people, Males, and Fat people.

I am a fat white guy. I have no sympathy for you people who are being called thin or skinny. I would trade places with you in a heart beat.
Feb. 7th, 2007 05:12 pm (UTC)
We all carry our own Achilles Heel, Dear One.

Making reference to anyone in a rude and cruel manner should be taught at an early age. Physical wounds heal in time, but hurtful words never do.

We all deserve respect, no matter if our bodies leave much to be desired, or whether we're smart or dumb.

I've seen some, make offensive remarks about those who are overweight and under. I've seen people post pictures of someone, only to make ugly comments about them. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that people who find a need to do these things, have GRAVE insecurity issues with themselves! How else but to bring down others, to pull themselves up out of the gutter?!

All of us have a RIGHT to respect.
Feb. 8th, 2007 03:41 am (UTC)
8th domain???? where have I been sleeping? Im not aware of all of them... whoa! Will we be the friends for this domain?
Feb. 8th, 2007 01:26 pm (UTC)
Yes, I have lots of domains! I'll be sharing one of them with you and the rest of my LJ friends very soon. You're gonna be shocked by this one! :o)
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Feb. 8th, 2007 09:42 pm (UTC)

I didn't know you have diabetes.....PLEASE take good care of yourself!!!!
Feb. 9th, 2007 07:50 pm (UTC)
Yes, I got it a little over a year ago, and I'm very upset about it.

I'm taking some classes on the subject, because I want to learn everything there is on the subject.

I'm taking care of myself Sweety Pie! :o)

I'm learning what to keep away from, and almost everything seems to be what I'm to keep away from, because almost everything turns to sugar! :o(
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