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Pigeons used as target practice


Live Pigeons Used For Target Practice



I made some phone calls today, to report the asshole that I saw Yesterday, trapping 100’s of pigeons with his tent like net. I found that he was not breaking the law, and in fact, there are many like this beast that are hired by companies to get rid of the pigeons, which they call pests! What these heartless assholes then do is go and sell them, where they will be used for target practice!! How can any hunter have the heart to shot these poor defenseless little birds, which have just as much right to live as we do?

I was told that before, using a poison called Avitrol was used as a pest control on them, but that has been stopped. These poor pigeons would die a horrible and painful death.

As for the POOR EXCUSE OF A MAN letting his dog loose to go and kill the cat, I can’t do anything about that, either. I’d have to have proof, and I don’t. I’ve been thinking of going back there and waiting to see if I see him again, so I can video tape him, but the problem is, when and how many times does he go to that spot?

What he did was go there because train toppers filled with grain, have some of the grain falling down onto the ground. The man goes with a shovel and scoops it up and places it under the tent like net he has placed. When the pigeons come to eat, he drops the tent, trapping all the pigeons.

I just can’t forget how I saw all the pigeons terrified, trying to escape!! The cat that I saw was skin and bone, and looks ill, because I know he has suffered great hunger and thirst. He’s probably eaten pigeons that have been poisoned with that horrible Avitrol, too!

Why not use clay pigeons instead of live ones?

How I'd love to trap that slob of a man, who was so nasty with me, and sell him for target practice! I'd be the first in line to try and shoot him!

They are calling net trapping of pigeons more humane than poisoning them. I found this link and I sure don’t find it more humane at all!!

Target Practice for Animal Activists

I found on the web a much better solution for businesses for eliminating the nesting on roofs by these pigeons, but I’m sure many of them won’t go through the expense.




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uglyface2
Jan. 2nd, 2007 09:37 pm (UTC)
Really. And, uh, which company hired him on this occasion? You know, so I can be sure I remember them in the future in case I'm in need of their services.

I'm a bit old fashioned when it comes to hunting. You do it for the meat, not for the sport. Killing live animals, even "pests" like pigeons, for the sake of target practice is reprehensible.
dumpsterdiva
Jan. 2nd, 2007 10:13 pm (UTC)
This I can agree with.
playgirl
Jan. 2nd, 2007 10:34 pm (UTC)
Most companies hire these guys to capture them, and they in turn go and sell them to places that use them for target practices.

I am heartbroken.
harley1456
Jan. 2nd, 2007 10:03 pm (UTC)
I was gonna say something yesterday but I let it go....yes, pigeons are considered like rats mice and roaches....you can pretty much do whatever you want with em.

I hunt birds, but I eat em........I have killed Prairie Dogs on Ranchers' property for fun, with the ranchers blessing, they would kill them themselves if we didn't...with poison, much like the pigeons.
dumpsterdiva
Jan. 2nd, 2007 10:12 pm (UTC)
I would say, from experience with gophers, that trapping prarie dogs is a better way to eradicate them from one's farm. Poison doesn't work after a while and the secondary kill to birds and other animals that may eat dead or slow moving poisoned critters would be a horrific way to die.

I belive that there are bounties on gopher tails to this day. If I remember right, one turns them into the irrigation board. They wreck havoc on crops since they are vegetarians and eat the roots of say alfalfa and can destroy quite a bit of the field during winter and one never knows how bad it is until Spring when it begins to grow. Or not.

I have eaten quail that were hunted in the past. Quite a tasty lil bird, I'd say. However, the law stated that one could shoot them only in a particular season and only so many total per day..I forget which.
harley1456
Jan. 2nd, 2007 10:35 pm (UTC)
Game birds (native birds) and Migratory birds (ducks and songbirds) are highly regulated.

Pigeons are not considered "game"

I trapped gophers as a kid!!

I think we hijacked playgirl's post.....
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playgirl
Jan. 2nd, 2007 10:39 pm (UTC)
Hunting for food is as it should be, but for fun, I just can't see it.

I just found out that many places still put poison on the top of the roof for these birds. The birds suffer an agonizing death.

How I wish I'd never found out these horrible facts, becasue it pains me to no end.
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dumpsterdiva
Jan. 2nd, 2007 10:06 pm (UTC)
Okay, sweetie, I don't understand your spin on this article {yes, I am a bit daft at times} Are you against the pigeons being shot? What is up with the NRA logo link then {I was lazy and did not click on it}

This is how I feel, if you care to read. I agree that pigeons have become a pest in cities since they find most excellent nesting and roosting sites. We took in a movie the other night and before the lights went down we noticed with much amusement that there was pigeon shit running down one side of the curtain since there was a vent above. Obviously pigeons must nest up there.

Pests they are. However, people feed them..even in open-air resturants that have signage that specifically instruct patrons "Do not Feed the Pigeons!" However, pigeons are a fact of life as they have been introduced here in Australia as well. We even have sulfer-crested Cockatoos {which are native} come down and perch on an empty seat at one's table and screech and beg. A formidible opponet when it comes to your fruit plate, indeed.

A few years back, I was in the States and had bought lovely deli sandwiches and drinks for my daughter and her friend and we took them to the beach one arvo. As we were setting up our blankets, a flock of vicious, rabid seagulls mistook our lunch for theirs. They came swooping down en masse, screaming, "Mine, Mine!" grabbed the bags of sandwiches and flew off with them, fighting each other for the contents.

That not being enough, another one swooped down on me as I was watching my $8 Vegetarian Deli Surprise On Rye disappear into the stratosphere and it grabbed my drink! Yes, drink, straw, ice, cup and all!!!!

So, do we shoot these seagulls as well? {Trust me, I was not pleased with nature that day!}

Actually, my question is this: I had thought that all birds were protected in the US. Is this incorrect? Or are the only protected unless they are used for 'sport' shooting? Years ago there was a bounty on magpie heads {.50 cents each} for farmers. But I truly was under the assumption that other birds were protected, introduced or natives.

Good read, though.

Cheers!

harley1456
Jan. 2nd, 2007 10:57 pm (UTC)
non-natives have zero protection and in fact many conservation organizations feel that non-native species such as European Starlings SHOULD be killed and have programs for trapping and killing them.

Next to habitat destruction non-native invasive species are one of the biggest threats to natural ecosystems....you in the down under know this (rabbits!!) dammm those cute bunnies.....

read more:

http://au.answers.yahoo.com/question/index.php?qid=20061025194648AAaGTBO
dumpsterdiva
Jan. 3rd, 2007 03:39 am (UTC)
Yes, we do know the rabbits. Also cane toads! Oy..they are really baddies down here.

I understand what you say. I was simply under the assumption that all birds were protected. It makes sense that introduced ones are not. They chase out the native, more timid species since most, like the starlings and the hella reproductive sparrows are more agressive for feed and can live on a wider variety of plants and seeds.

Get this...The common English Privet was introduced. Now, because of non native birds eating the seed pods and then flying away to defacate in the bush, the Privet hedge is growing out in the bushland and choking out the sensitive native bush. It is crazy, I tell ya! Even the sturdy and lovely wattle cannot compete when the privet takes hold. It's root system is amazingly strong and rank in growth habit.

Thanks for your info. Cheers!
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playgirl
Jan. 2nd, 2007 11:08 pm (UTC)
I emphatically believe in our right to bear arms. I own a couple of firearms for shooting TWO legged vermin if need be. I believe we have the right to defend ourselves, should someone enter our home with the intent of harming us or any member of our family. In a heartbeat, I’d blast that person to kingdom come.

I also thought all birds were protected, but they are not. All of this is brand new to me, and have barely started looking up links on the subject. What got my attention to this was my experience of yesterday’s post. I had no idea that companies have been hiring people to get rid of pigeons by poison, and by trapping them with nets. How I wish I’d never witnessed what I did so I could continue living in the dark about the reality of what’s going on.

I found this link which shows safer and better methods to keep pigeons or other types of birds considered pests from roosting or nesting.

Tough plastic pigeon netting

I'm guilty of feedling the birds, also. Whenever I go out to eat, I doggy bag the bread and crackers, then sprinkle them out in the parking lot so the birds can eat them.

I love animals so much, that I can't stand to see them suffer. I just can't help it.

Sorry those birds stole your deli sandwiches! :o(

dumpsterdiva
Jan. 3rd, 2007 03:25 am (UTC)
Thanks for the link. And I understand your stance on the guns. Trust me on that one.

Re: The Attack of the Gourmand Seagulls

It was about three years ago and what was so funny about it was I tried and tried to get the sandwich bags back. Hell, that was a $23.00 lunch for us! Not until I finally gave in did I settle down and realize that I, in my bikini, had the attention of the entire beach area and my daughter and her friend were busily snapping away with their cameras.

As were a few uniformed visiting sailors.

ha ha!

Cheers!
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playgirl
Jan. 3rd, 2007 01:30 am (UTC)
What can the poor little things do, when we continue moving into their turf and polluting it?

As for the disease they carry, we the ones responsible by polluting this earth?

I just can't help the pain I feel by seeing them suffer so. They all want to live, just as we do.
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dumpsterdiva
Jan. 3rd, 2007 03:33 am (UTC)
They actually cull kangaroos here because, like the deer in the states, they have multiplied beyond the land's capacity to sustain them.

Why?

Golf courses! They bring water inland where there is usually very little, making it easy for the roos to lie around and breed all day instead of hunting out water many kilometeres a day. They also reproduce more quickly because they graze on the lovely grass and introduced trees that make the golf courses so lush and beautiful.

I saw a special on this not too long ago and it had a funny part - There was Tiger Woods, up for the putt, and to his left were about 30 lounging - literally on their sides - kangaroos of all ages, waiting for the putt.

Quiet though they were as they chewed their cud, even Tiger Woods had to take a 'hysterically lauging break.'


This is true!
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