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Things like this have happened way too many times!

The Police insist the officers did everything right before they entered Kathryn Johnston's home.

YEAH RIGHT! They did everything right, EXCEPT for mistakingly busting down the door of the wrong person!!

3 narcotics officers shot, 92 year old woman killed

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Nov. 22nd, 2006 05:10 pm (UTC)

I would have shot them too! Poor lady...
Nov. 22nd, 2006 05:58 pm (UTC)
They were dressed in plain clothes, it was 7PM, and they bust down her door, she lives alone. Can you imagine the terror the little old woman felt?!

Police need to get their act together, and make DAMN sure they've got the CORRECT house before they go busting homeowners doors down and killing people!

If three plain clothed men bust my door down at night, my instinct will be to shoot them the thugs! How in the world am I suppose to believe they are really cops, when I know for a fact that I've broken absolutely NO laws?!

Nov. 22nd, 2006 05:26 pm (UTC)
The only good
Those fucking pigs. I choose the term correctly will hesitate before acting like the Gestapo. If a grandma can hospitalize three, someone with better reflexes would have killed them. The supposedly thought it was a drug den. Did they think everyone was going to roll over for them. I like one thing about this. In the altererd states of consciousness class on Near Death experience tells one thing that every single case in 1000 clinical case had. They all had to experience ever emotion they cause in everyone they have dealt with in their life. Those pigs will feel what it is like to be invaded and killed by fascists.
Nov. 22nd, 2006 06:11 pm (UTC)
Re: The only good
Most policemen are good cops, but there are those who are trigger happy. These are the ones who are giving the rest a bad name.

I never realized, until the internet exposed them, that there has been, and continues to be too much police brutality. What makes it all the more frightening is the fact that they stick together when one does something brutal, and they get away with it with only a slap on the wrist!

I hate to imagine what more brutality there has been, before videos became so popular! I have recently been watching videos of actual vicious police brutality, and this scares me as you will never imagine!
Nov. 22nd, 2006 05:56 pm (UTC)
Nov. 22nd, 2006 06:12 pm (UTC)
What an incredible link! Thank you so much!
Nov. 22nd, 2006 06:49 pm (UTC)
You're quite welcome.

I wish there wasn't a need for such a link but, sadly, there is.
Nov. 22nd, 2006 07:31 pm (UTC)
I wish to God there wasn't a need, either. But it's time these atrocities performed by SOME bad cops be exposed to all of us!

What a crying shame, that a law abiding citizen, must be afraid of being shot, when confronted by a policeman!!
Nov. 22nd, 2006 07:02 pm (UTC)
and this isn't even the worst case of police brutality that i've heard in the last year or so in atlanta.

and that's the sad part.
Nov. 22nd, 2006 07:04 pm (UTC)
I would love to be on the Jury if this comes to trial. From what was said in that news article something is wrong.

In one sentence it says: "Assistant Chief Alan Dreher said the officers had a legal warrant and 'knocked and announced' before they forced open the door. He said they were justified in returning fire when they were fired upon."

BUT in another area the Police spokesman said

"As the officers approached the house about 7 p.m., a woman inside started shooting, said Officer Joe Cobb, a police spokesman. The officers returned fire, Cobb said."

Which was it?? Did she start shooting and pick them off in the yard?? or did she shoot them AFTER they forced the door.?? in either case the police screwed the pooch big time.

If its like the Narc's I knew they announced and hit the door with a battering ram less than 5 seconds later. Probably did not give her a chance to get up much less answer the door. I wonder if they even investigated their tip? if they did they need to be bounced cause they aint worth a shit as investigators.

Nov. 22nd, 2006 07:25 pm (UTC)
Two different reports?! Sounds to me like they’re trying to change facts around for their own safety! This is exactly what I find so frightening, that they can change the facts so easily and get away with their evil deeds! I’ve noticed that when things like this happen, and are investigated by THEIR OWN, they come out smelling like a rose!

I say it now, and I’ll say it to my dying day, I am so very afraid of policemen!! This little old lady is prime example of a woman who is safe in her own home, and ends up dead because of police who can’t even BUST the door down of the correct house! What happened to this lady can happen to any of us.

I don’t believe for a second that she shot them while they were in her front yard. If this had been the case, then why had she never shot anybody who was in her front yard before?!

There are SOME policemen who are not policemen, but the Gestapo!!

Don’t get me wrong, Daddy! I’m the first to be grateful for our police force, because I know that without them, all law abiding citizens are cooked sitting ducks. The ones that frighten me, are the ones who are bad evil cops. The problem is, how does one tell, when confronted by one, if he’s a good cop, or an evil one?!
Nov. 22nd, 2006 07:44 pm (UTC)
92 yr old lady handing a gun??? WOOOOOO NELLLLY!!

and she hit them too...
Nov. 22nd, 2006 08:35 pm (UTC)
She would have made a great little soldier in Iraq! :o)

I honestly believe she could have shot them dead, but purposely shot them where there weren't any vital organs! What a precious little old lady! I'm glad the police who killed her survived! How I wish she would have survived, also!
Nov. 22nd, 2006 11:42 pm (UTC)
The War on Drugs - which is a fucking failure as you can get drugs in maximum security prisons!! - is really a War on The Fourth Amendment.

Nov. 22nd, 2006 08:35 pm (UTC)
Living semi-clsoe to Atlanta I can unerstand that it is disturbing to hear of folks being shot and killed on a botched raid. Especially after the recent rash of home break-ins where the perps would kick down doors and scream 'POLICE, EVERYONE DOWN.' Beofre robbing the house and or beeating the residents. So seeing the tag here http://www.wsbtv.com/news/10374909/detail.html where it said they parked a marked cruiser in front of the house and were wearing vests that read police acros sthe ront and back. Means litlte as several of the break-ins that hapve happened were by perps with fake badges and wearing the same types of vests. Which can be purchased here http://www.actiongear.com/cgi-bin/tame.exe/agcatalog/index.tam

It is little wonder why such a thing has not happened before now. Just my few cents on the subject, right or wrong a person must always have the ability and means to defend theirselves from all aggressors. Perhaps this will open more than just the eyes of a few, but everyone as a whole.
Nov. 22nd, 2006 10:49 pm (UTC)
The police really need to rethink using SWAT tactics for every warrant they serve, or more of this crap is going to keep happening. I think most warrants should be served the old fashioned way, by knocking and serving the warrant. Busting down doors should be a last resort, and it should be clear to the parties in the building that it's the police outside. The reason these tactics are used is to catch the suspects by surprise, thus mitigating the risk that they will flush evidence.

The lesson here is that it's a bad idea to make crimes out of activities that don't have victims. When you make victimless crimes, the police have to resort to "police state" tactics in order to enforce the law.
Nov. 23rd, 2006 02:00 am (UTC)
It is hard to believe a 92 year old woman is shooting a police and then they kill her. What is going on anyway?
Nov. 23rd, 2006 02:13 am (UTC)
This story raises more questions the more you think about it.

- Why did the woman have a gun at the ready to fire at the cops?

- Who gave the cops the bogus tip? Why? Was it really a bogus tip, or did the cops make a mistake?

- Why didn't the police conduct surveillance on the house before they acted? From what the story tells, the woman lived alone, and the lack of any activity in the house should have been a clue that there was nothing in there.

- On the last point, what kind of activities were the police expecting to find? There are all kinds of tools available to the police, and any one of them would have eliminated the house from suspicion.

This is incompetence of the highest order. Drug raids are absolutely important in keeping down crime in a neighborhood (fewer labs/distributors/hideaways mean fewer dealers and less drug related violence). SNAFUs like this make legitimate raids much harder to act on.
Nov. 24th, 2006 04:43 am (UTC)
You need to go back and do some more research on this one. Seems all wasn't revealed in the initial sensationalized TV and newspaper reports. The "plain clothes" police were wearing the flak vests with "POLICE" in big white letters all over them. The officers that were shot, were inside. They had to break through a barred door then a wooden door before they got in. She certainly knew way in advance they were coming in. She still shot at them, wounding three of them. Plus, they did find suspected narcotics in her house. They did have a valid warrant for the correct house.
Nov. 26th, 2006 01:21 am (UTC)
I just don't know. I've sadly become so suspicious of some policemen. There are always two sides to a story, and just because they are the law, doesn’t mean their side is the truth.

I’ve been reading a lot about Mark Furhman, and will be making a post soon, and will do so because this man has something to do with my suspicions.
Nov. 25th, 2006 06:49 am (UTC)
I'm sure you'd like to see this.

Didn't know how to otherwise get a hold of you to relay the above info link.
Nov. 26th, 2006 01:13 am (UTC)
Re: I'm sure you'd like to see this.
Thank you so much for the link!

I've made quite a few posts in the past, with my personal feelings that the draft would soon be reinstated.

I was hoping all along that it was just a stupid suspicion coming from a nut such as myself. Now that you've brought this link to my attention, I find I have so many mixed feelings about it, and will express them soon.

Nov. 26th, 2006 06:08 pm (UTC)
well It has been a few days so I thought I would post some thing here it is safer that way for me anyway :)

well there is something really wrong with this story.
they had no right to do what they did and I think... ho heck I know they are covering it up the facts that is, and making it sound like they did nothing wrong, you know it is there job to protect and defend not to attack and threaten but this is what we have to live with any more.

well it appears like that to me any way!

you know I have heard that a good cop will back up his fellow officers but I think that a good cop will do the right thing first but most are afraid to stand up and say some thing bad about a fellow officer.

you know the hardest thing to do in this world is the right thing there is no profit or glory in it most of the time.
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