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1. I've been to Vegas once in my life, and I just didn't like it. I am NOT a gambler. In fact, when I left Vegas, I betted EXACTLY on quarter as I was leaving!

Although, I'm not a gambler, I DON'T like this, and would like to know what you think about it:
Congress approves Internet gambling ban bill

2. Another entirely different question. P-L-E-A-S-E Educate me.
I see nothing malicious by calling a guy a GRINGO.
If I innocently called you a GRINGO, will you be insulted?
Yes? No? Why?

3. As for the Mark Foley scandal: Why do these very intelligent people do such STUPID things?! Was he one of the guys who kept bad mouthing President Clinton on the Monica Lewinsky scandal?

Also, I'm getting pretty sick and tired of watching ALL the Vultures, on ALL the TV channels, taking a chunk of Foley's guts.

Leave it alone, already! Just investigate it privately, and then when you've got all the facts, hang him by his toes!!



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Oct. 3rd, 2006 10:46 pm (UTC)
If you call me a gringo I wouldn't care. But, I along with most people from the United States have no idea what Gringo means. I could call you a Mexican American and it might not be offensive. But, if I used the word Spic that would be very offensive and I don't know what that means either. So the offense is not the word it's in how it's meant. No matter how I address you, you should know that I hold you in the highest esteem and would never offend you on purpose. Now, am I still waiting for this magic post? or did I miss it? Oh and do you have a Yahoo Messenger account? We could use the voice talk feature and the cam feature and have a great face to face chat. LOL OH you could wear a mask. :)
Oct. 3rd, 2006 11:03 pm (UTC)
I have no idea what GRINGO means, either. All I know is that my girlfriends and I find GRINGOS so incredibly sexy!!

We're always chit chatting among ourselves in Spanish: Look at that GRINGO over there! OMG! He's HOT! Someday, I want to marry a GUERRO! (Guerro means a whitey! haaaaaaaa!)

I have not forgotten the surprise I have in store for you! You SEXY GRINGO!

I have no idea what Spic means either
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Oct. 3rd, 2006 11:04 pm (UTC)
no sympathy for the gop
oh no, don't investigate mark foley quietly. i want kenneth star to spend $5 million on a worthless investigation, dragging foley's name through the mud just like they did clinton. i want as much of a hooplah about this as possible.

fact is the gop had all of the facts, they tried to cover that shit up.

i don't know about foley but dennis hastert, speaker of the house who helped cover the scandal, bad mouthed president clinton to no end.

don't get me wrong, democrats aren't saints either and when they do dirt they should be called on it but too many times, republicans do shit and the media looks the other way. hell: trent lott makes racist comments, the vice president shoots somebody while drunk and then they want to act like victims.

the republican party is just as scandalous as the democratic party, the only difference is that they're usually the first ones to put on airs and cast stones.
Oct. 3rd, 2006 11:10 pm (UTC)
Re: no sympathy for the gop
I just can't believe, I used to look at politicians and holy rollers through rose colored glasses. Not any more. They all make me sick!

I keep hearing all these vultures gasping in shock as to how disgusted they are about Foley's actions. I wonder which ones have ugly secrets which haven't leaped out yet.

Who the hell can we trust?
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Oct. 3rd, 2006 11:08 pm (UTC)
number 2
My half mexican g/f calls me a gringo all the time, and as a white person I am in fact white, so no biggie.

Oct. 3rd, 2006 11:15 pm (UTC)
Re: number 2
I don't believe it should be a biggie, either.

I have no idea how the word came to be. I hope someone can let me know.
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Oct. 3rd, 2006 11:18 pm (UTC)
1. Don't agree with it either, especially since such laws are usually poorly thought out. They made internet gambling against the law here in Washington. Guess what, according to the law, the daily article in the paper on how to play card games is now considered a felony. Nobody hsa pressed the issue, but such laws that are arbitrarily put into affect bothers me more than just outlawing the thing.

2. Don't really care about being called a gringo. First, I don't think that gringo is really used as a racial slur so much, at least not in OK. Second, being a white male that grew up in a white male dominated society for the most part, I really just don't get racial slurs. They really don't bother me. Really, I, like many whiteys, would relly like to hear some white jokes. Nobody will tell us any. My theory is that not having grown up associating such terms with fear and threat, it fails to have fight or flight affect that one usually gets.

Now, call me a 'freak' in a derogatory sence and I will step up and be ready to fight. I put this down to growing up as a punk rocker with green mohawk in OK in the 80's where such terms were usually the start of trouble. I did grow up associating that with fear and threat. Between freinds, we refer to each other as freaks, but get offended when normal people use the term. It's totally one of those "we can use that name because we are that but you can't because you aren't" sort of things.

3. "Politician is two faced and discovered to have lied to suit party and political career. News at 11, followed by a report on people doing really stupid things for sex." It's not surprising but it will be all over everything for a long time. The republicans beat up on the democrats so now that the democrats can beat up on the republicans, there's no way they'll let it drop.
Oct. 3rd, 2006 11:32 pm (UTC)
Gambling, Gringos, Politicians
Who makes these laws without consulting with the American people?

As I mentioned before, I am not a gambler, but if I want to gamble on the internet and pay with MY money that’s in my bank, or pay with my credit card, and the government to forbid me from spending my money in which ever manner I chose, is going WAY too far!! Is the day fast approaching where we, the American people, will have to ask permission of the government as to how we might spend OUR money? What in the hell is going on here? I find it FRIGHTENING!

No, the word GINGO isn’t a slur word, in fact, when I call a guy a GRINGO, it’s kind of like giving him a little love pat on his rear end! ;o)

Why is it, that when anybody mentions the mere word POLITICS, my stomach suddenly turns?!
I don’t trust any of them anymore!!!
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Oct. 4th, 2006 11:23 pm (UTC)
Re: Beltway boys.... lol!
I don't believe there's any other way to say GRINGO, but in a nice way.

Again, I bring up two movies I found through Google:
Old Gringo and Song of the Gringo

As for Foley, I kind of feel sorry for him, because I find him to be such a foolish man for destroying his reputation, and career, in such a terrible way!

I just hope he doesn't do something foolish again, like killing himself!!
Oct. 4th, 2006 02:26 am (UTC)
Ok I am confused... When I was in Spain We were called gringo's "Gringo" being a spanish name for english speaking people. WHY would anyone who speaks english find that offensive?

I dunno why whatever dictionary you read found it to be offensive, unless it was supposed to be PC and the person who wrote the reference did not know what 'he she or it' was talking about.

Anyway as for the gambling ban, I dont care but the feds should keep their ass out of people's rights. Its not the Feds buisness wether I blow all my money on the net or not.

AND finally as for Foley, hang him up by his balls! but from what I am hearing the media has known about this for MONTHS and has even been checked out by the FBI and the Florida Newspapers and nothing has been found to be as bad as the Democrats are saying. If this is true then why is it being drugged up just before the elections? It is sounding more and more like a political ploy.
Oct. 4th, 2006 02:28 pm (UTC)
I've yet to encounter an Anglo who finds the word GRINGO offensive. In fact, when I call you a GRINGITO, (SMOOCH!) it's quite a compliment. :o)

I'm getting pretty sick and tired of the government telling me what's good for me and what's not, as if I were a child, dependant on them. This gambling ban is just the beginning. I wonder what the next ban will be.

Aye! Foley! It's hard for me to imagine a man in his position, doing such stupid things!
Oct. 4th, 2006 03:08 am (UTC)
You can call me a gringo all you want. I don't take offense. Nor do I take offense to Irish stereotypes or insults, such as "Drunken Mick".

As for the Foley thing, people are paying attention to it because it makes him a class A hippocrite, and it is way too much to ask of the press to ignore a scandal this juicy. The co-chair for the House Caucus on Missing and Exploited Children, and huge proponent of child pornography and exploitation, turns out to be lusting after teenage boys? Throw in the fact that the Republican leadership may have known about this and kept hush hush, or that the Democrats might have known as well, but kept it under the rug until the time was ripe to out Foley? Great stuff, really.

Personally, I want to see the book thrown at Foley if these accusations turn out to be true and it's really a crime. He helped pass a lot of the legislation that he'll be prosecuted under, and I love poetic justice. Now, I don't think flirting with 16 year old pages makes you a pedophile. Pedophiles like children, and in most states, for these kinds of purposes, 16 year olds are not considered children (age of consent is 16 in most jurisdictions), but it most definitely makes him a sick bastard.

I think thing I've read about this I agree with the most is by Kip Equire
Oct. 4th, 2006 03:00 pm (UTC)
Song of the Gringo
I don't think GRINGO is a offensive word, either. When I call YOU a GRINGO, it's just like giving you a loving little non-sexual pat on your tush! ;o)

I just did a Google search and found these two movies. Were the word GRINGO a derrogatory word, I don't believe they would have named these movies by that name.

Song of the Gringo
Old Gringo

As for Foley, politics gets dirtier and dirtier, huh? Is it possible that someday it will go as far as having a shoot out, just to WIN!

Thank you for the link: Mark Foley discussing Bill Clinton, September 1998. I thought I'd read something like that once.
Oct. 4th, 2006 03:21 am (UTC)

grin‧go  /ˈgrɪŋgoʊ/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[gring-goh] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun, plural -gos. Usually Disparaging.
(in Latin America or Spain) a foreigner, esp. one of U.S. or British descent.
[Origin: 1840–50, American; < Sp: foreign language, foreigner, esp. English-speaking (pejorative); prob. alter. of griego Greek. The belief that word is from the song “Green Grow the Lilacs,” popular during U.S.-Mexican War, is without substance]
Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.0.1)
Based on the Random House Unabridged Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2006.
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n : a Latin American (disparaging) term for foreigners (especially Americans and Englishmen)

There's the dictionary defination. Maybe it will help you see a new point of view on the word or even strengthen you belief it is not an "offensive" term. I don't know how it will help but this is what I offer.
I personally never hear the word used so it never occured to me to take it one way or the other. Funny huh?!?!
Oct. 4th, 2006 06:37 am (UTC)
I forgot to mention.... I love Unforgetable too. We do seam to share alot of the same music tastes.
Also... I thought it was funny that so many people, myself included, jumped to answer the grin-go or not to grin-go question but tended except for a few even touch the other topics.
To be honest I don't even know about the Mark Foley scandal. I haven't seen the news or a news paper in 2 weeks with all the things I have to do. I miss haveing the time to read a newspaper so I knew what was going on around the world. Now I am so busy running errands, deep cleaning house before winter, installing carpet, going to doctors and therapists....blah. My knowledge of world event's is suffering along with my health...lol.
As far as the gambleing deal. It soulds to me like someone is going to end up with some kind of monopoly running it all before it's over. I think it is silly. Pretty soon they are going to say my local grade school can't hold a raffel as a fundraiser because we would be gambleing where they don't want it done.
Who is "they" anway???
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Oct. 4th, 2006 07:01 am (UTC)
you know, it's totally the fault of the democrats that the founder and co-chair of the Congressional Missing and Exploited Children's Caucus was cyber-sexing teenage boys.
it's all a liberal conspiracy to destroy traditional family values!
Oct. 4th, 2006 07:35 am (UTC)

in typical Orwellian fashion, FOX news has re-written reality so now Foley is a Democrat

now half the population will forever believe he is, was, and always will be a democrat, no matter what anyone tells them... just like Saddam having links to Al Queda, WMDs, and being connected to 9-11.
Oct. 4th, 2006 11:11 pm (UTC)
Fox NEEDS to take away the word DEMOCRAT from this man's name, and fast!
(no subject) - p0stmdrnpr1mt1v - Oct. 5th, 2006 03:08 am (UTC) - Expand
Oct. 4th, 2006 12:12 pm (UTC)
Gringo: a Latin American (disparaging) term for foreigners (especially Americans and Englishmen)

"Gringo" is in the same class of words as spic, wetback, kike, jap, and nigger. It is, and always has been, an insult.

If I innocently called you a WETBACK, would you be insulted?

Oct. 4th, 2006 02:20 pm (UTC)
I really don't think the word GRINGO is in the same class as WETBACK. When the Spanish speaking population uses the word, it's in reference to an Anglo, and nothing more.

I personally don't mind being called a Spic, since it means "I no spica di English." But to be called a WETBACK, I'd find it offensive because I'm not one (Born in the U.S.A.), just as person would find being called WHITE TRASH offensive. I don't believe a true WETBACK would find the word offensive, since he knows he IS a WETBACK.

If I call an ANGLO, a GRINGO/GRINGA, and the person finds it offensive, I will apologize and not do it again. I have yet to find anyone around here to be offended by the word.

I have a question for you, since I'm a Mexican - Mexico, a Spaniard - Spain, and a Lebanese - Lebanon, what would you call me? And please don't call me a mutt, because all my friends already do! ;o)
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Oct. 4th, 2006 04:13 pm (UTC)
1. I don't gamble either.
2. No!! I've been called much worse....
3. Because they are human beings....
4. I agree...But it is becoming a media circus...
Oct. 4th, 2006 04:37 pm (UTC)
1. Good!
2. Me, too! heh heh

4. They already are a circus of self proclaimed Lawyers, Judge, Jury, Shrinks, Preachers, and Magic Crystal Ball Seers!
Oct. 4th, 2006 05:15 pm (UTC)
So stop watching t.v. OR go blind.
Oct. 4th, 2006 11:06 pm (UTC)
Courttv? No way Puppy Puddles! :o)
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Oct. 6th, 2006 12:43 am (UTC)
Para mi gringo nunca ha tenido un signficido derogativo para mi, gringo o gringa es un termino para designar a los americanos.
En la otra mano me parece muy mal el que Foley haya dicho que es gay despues de tanto tiempo pero tambien esta mal que se ensañen con el por ese motivo
Oct. 8th, 2006 01:55 am (UTC)
Tambien para mi y todos mis amigos.

Que locura de hombre (Foley) hacer esas cosas, teniendo un trabajo tan publico y serio! No se puede creer! :o(
Oct. 7th, 2006 05:02 am (UTC)
You wont to hear some thing funny Savanah this post just came up on my lj for the first time Today and it is the 6 th that has been happening a lot what is going on I wonder am I stuck in a time warp ;O) lol
Oct. 8th, 2006 01:53 am (UTC)
Maybe we're all in a Time Machine after all! :o)
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