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I am a Democrat. Why? Because there are times when I don’t have a penny to piss on.

1. Why is it that people who also do not have a penny to piss on, and there are oodles of them, vote Republican?

2. Do you think that they will eventually regret voting Republican?

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ayoub
Dec. 3rd, 2010 08:23 pm (UTC)
That confuses me, too...
stevie_stever
Dec. 3rd, 2010 09:25 pm (UTC)
Well, though I am a Democrat, I have to confess, from what I've studied, there is a rather large and detailed history of Americans voting against their own interests. It happens, and it isn't just confined to Republicans in the modern era.
fourcorners
Dec. 3rd, 2010 09:36 pm (UTC)
Republicans are crafty. They set each election on morality, not economics, and they're good at mishandling the truth. Why, if you don't vote Republican, 10,000,000 illegal aliens will cross over our porous borders and TAKE YOUR JOB, and if you don't have a job, well, it's because the Democrats haven't done anything to stop companies from outsourcing your job overseas or it was ALREADY TAKEN BY AN ILLEGAL ALIEN! Also, if you don't vote Republican, gays will marry and adopt little boys and teach them to be gay, and then they'll grow up and join the military and they will HAVE INVOLUNTARY SEX WITH THE SOLDIERS. If you love America, you won't let this happen! Also, the Democrats want to keep God out of our schools, and they don't want kids to know about creationism. Do you want your kids to grow up in a godless world where there's no morals and everybody's going gay? DO YOU? And, the Democrats want to impose gun control, which means they don't want anyone to have guns, and when the illegal aliens start raiding your house, you won't have any way to defend yourself. IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT? Vote Republican

This generally works on poor dumb white people who don't see a lot of hispanic people or gays, but fear that one day they'll march into town (an army of gay Mexicans) and take away people's jobs and young sons. The Republicans get the poor to vote right because they prey on their confused feelings and the fact that most people don't know much about politics and world events beyond the headlines, so they can exploit their biases anyone they want and no one really cares about the truth anymore.

The Democrats are weak and too civil to win at politics. They strongly believe in equality and fair play and don't believe in combat, preferring to resolve problems through reason and logic rather than violence. This also applies to their campaigning. They would rather not get down and dirty and fight with the Republicans. The donkeys would prefer to use logic and appeal to people's intellect, but not everybody is educated or uses their logic.

What the Democrats don't understand is that what drives the Republican base is emotional, sometimes fear-based. What drives the Democratic base is a reason and ideas how to make the world better. Emotion will always drive people more than reason. So, the Republicans make America scared, and the Democrats don't do anything to try and address those fears, and they end up losing.

nahele_101
Dec. 3rd, 2010 10:51 pm (UTC)
*snort*

"...an army of gay mexicans..."

Awesome response!
squidb0i
Dec. 4th, 2010 05:11 pm (UTC)
You forgot ZOMG TAXES, ZOMG COMMIEZ, and ZOMG TEH KONSTITUSHUN wank, but other than that, dead bang on.

*drinks to the army of gay mexicans*
spiritualmonkey
Dec. 3rd, 2010 09:50 pm (UTC)
In America we have this myth: I'm gonna work hard and get rich, so I don't wanna tax the rich as I aspire to be one of the someday.

It doesn't work out that way for the most part, but the myth that we've actually had a middle class in America for the last 30 years (when all we've had is a working class living a middle class lifestyle on credit cards) allows the ruling class to say "We're all just reg'lr folks. It's not like you're an underpaid semi-peasantry and we're all but a hereditary aristocracy.

"Oh, and a black man is the American president."

That's why I think people who are broke and unemployed and about to get 99'd off of unemployment vote against the party trying to extend benefits, and the one that basically says "Fuck you overwhelming majority of Americans, our priority is lowering the tax burden on the top 5% of the wealth-holders and corporate citizens in America. Oh, and war. Always more war."
marc17
Dec. 3rd, 2010 10:01 pm (UTC)
American politics are pretty much about single issue voters. The winner take all nature of most of the votes means that only two real parties exist. Those two parties are 95% the same except on key issues where the population is highly polarized. The parties then typically adopt those issues as planks in their party platform. It's all about getting the 51%. If one party got substantially more than that, then the other party just comes into line with the beliefs of the winning party and shaves off their voters with other critical issues. Thus, the actual fringes are pretty much ignored in American politics unless they have lots of money to donate and will not chase away too many other voters.

Then there is a fair amount of partisan warfare that goes on that isn't much deeper than red versus blue. If the other party proposes something, even if it is the same as what your party proposed earlier, it is bad and they are against it. The actual issues don't matter, but rather is just a case of my team versus your team.
prader
Dec. 3rd, 2010 10:50 pm (UTC)
1) Because oftentimes there is no libertarian in the race and the Republican is the lesser of two evils?

2) Probably not.
nahele_101
Dec. 3rd, 2010 10:54 pm (UTC)
Democrats are spineless wimps who can't get shit done.
Republicans are complete and total assholes for the most part.

I can't really stand either of them. The two party system combined with unlimited campaign funding means they are basically one and the same.

I align myself with the green party, but they don't stand a flippin' chance in hell of ever getting into office.
daddy
Dec. 3rd, 2010 11:10 pm (UTC)
geeeeeez
Now that I have finished laughing at the above comments, I know good and well that anything I say will be of little use since you cannot reason with a liberal. Its like having a battle of the wits with someone who has no weapons.

Everyone is quick to demonize the republicans, but cannot see the democrat evils. As Christ mentioned, you comment about the splinter that is in another's eye but you cannot see the log in your own.

There are plenty of democrats who have used their power to pad their pockets and ensure that they stay in power as long as they can.

I am not a republican or democrat I vote for who I feel would be the best for the country, whether it will make me a penny richer or not, for if the country folds, we are all FUCKED!

At this time in the country, if you want welfare baby's populating our hospitals, and prisoners getting millions of dollars in tax returns, spending money that we do not have but will have to be paid off by our grand children and great grand children, IF YOU HATE THE COUNTRY AND THE FREEDOMS WE HAVE then VOTE Democrat. Vote Progressive.

If you wanna get the country back to work, if you want your hard earned money to stay in YOUR pocket so you can decide how to spend or save it, If you want to be able to obtain a decent insurance policy for your children and grand parents and not have the Government deciding who gets what and who will die because they will not spend the limited money on a terminal patient, If you want to be able to buy something that says MADE IN AMERICA, If you love the USA and all the freedoms that millions of men and women fought for and ensure by serving all over the the world, then vote Conservative vote for those Republicans who believe in the ideals that the tea party supporters stand for. VOTE for those Americans who are not sailing our country off the edge of the world like the Obama regime is.

Ok, Y'all can have fun denigrating me like you always do. but you cannot truthfully deny what I have said.
playgirl
Dec. 3rd, 2010 11:15 pm (UTC)
Re: geeeeeez
Oh daddy, you know you're gonna get mobbed by my LJ friends because of what you've express, but I know you'll be able to take it with a stiff upper life!

I can hardly wait! heee!

Oh! And you're so WRONG!

I really do love you my hero!
prader
Dec. 3rd, 2010 11:48 pm (UTC)
Re: geeeeeez
you're gonna get mobbed by my LJ friends because of what you've express

Naw, Democrats are too in favor of using "reason" and "logic" to ever try bullying someone with a dissenting opinion.
nebris
Dec. 4th, 2010 12:54 am (UTC)
So what happened to the American economy during the Bush II administration?

~M~
daddy
Dec. 4th, 2010 01:31 am (UTC)
if you don't know, it started to go to shit! He did a few good things in his first term (not a lot but a few) but his second term he had a full Democrat loaded Congress and Senate and could not do a hell of a lot.

Keep in mind that ALL spending starts in the HOUSE, not the White House. Do a search on PORK and see all the trash that the House and Senate spent our money on.
stevie_stever
Dec. 4th, 2010 03:19 pm (UTC)
Actually, Bush didn't lose both houses until 2006. And except for a brief 10 month period in 2001-2, he enjoyed a majority in both House and Senate.

So he had a full Republican Congress until 2006.
tigron_x
Dec. 4th, 2010 12:59 am (UTC)
Re: geeeeeez
Why would you need weapons in a battle of wits? That sounds like war.
daddy
Dec. 4th, 2010 01:26 am (UTC)
Re: geeeeeez
War is good business! It was WWII that brought us out of the Great Depression that Roosevelt kept us in for so long so he could build up a good voter base. I believe if he had not croaked he would have tried to do a "Napoleon" and crowned himself King of America. Like most Democrats he believed that America worked for HIM so he could spend money.
tigron_x
Dec. 4th, 2010 01:53 am (UTC)
Re: geeeeeez
Yeah, but that whole killing people part kinda gets in the way, you know?
squidb0i
Dec. 4th, 2010 05:08 pm (UTC)
Re: geeeeeez
It does rather put a damper on the whole thing, yes.
squidb0i
Dec. 4th, 2010 05:23 am (UTC)
If it walks like a duck, and qucks like a duck, it's probably an elephant.
"I am not a republican"

And yet you mindlessly regurgitate their every talking point.


Fascinating.
daddy
Dec. 4th, 2010 02:14 pm (UTC)
Re: If it walks like a duck, and qucks like a duck, it's probably an elephant.
Facts and the TRUTH, are not relegated to be republican talking points. They are just that FACTS and the TRUTH, and only those with an open mind, who allow themselves to see the truth are free to use them.

Unfortunately those who refuse to accept those truths, will denigrate those who do. That is what is truly fascinating
squidb0i
Dec. 4th, 2010 05:07 pm (UTC)
Re: If it walks like a duck, and qucks like a duck, it's probably an elephant.
" They are just that FACTS and the TRUTH"

Do let us know if you find some then.
daddy
Dec. 4th, 2010 02:16 pm (UTC)
Re: If it walks like a duck, and qucks like a duck, it's probably an elephant.
OH and one more truism for you,

If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, Its an AFLAC commercial.

The Merriest of the Season to you!
squidb0i
Dec. 4th, 2010 05:08 pm (UTC)
Re: If it walks like a duck, and qucks like a duck, it's probably an elephant.
And to you.
tigron_x
Dec. 4th, 2010 01:00 am (UTC)
At this point, I don't know why anyone would support either party.
daddy
Dec. 4th, 2010 01:33 am (UTC)
There are a few in each party that are trying to do good, but as a whole they are mostly corrupt. At least they censured Rangle, the bum should have been tarred and feathered and run out of Washington on a rail.
tedwords
Dec. 4th, 2010 07:35 pm (UTC)
I think folks who don't have money and vote Republican aren't making very wise decisions...and they did regret voting Republican, at least, two years ago. They will again!
davev1968
Dec. 4th, 2010 09:26 pm (UTC)
And, Democrats would tax your last penny and then use it to pay for a form for you to fill out to get government cheese.

Being Republican means being for smaller government, specifically FEDERAL government. That has nothing to do with being rich or poor. Really, what the Republican party has become does not represent the actual, original Republican beliefs and values.

1) Are they really Republicans, or are they part of one of the groups that have hijacked the Republican party? Conservative Christians, Fundamentalist Christians, etc? If they are, then they won't regret it because they are voting their religion, which they believe is much more important than their country.

2) No.
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