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SUPPORT OUR SOLDIERS. BRING THEM BACK HOME!

1. Are you better of financially because of the Bush Administration, and HIS war?

2. This war is costing tax payers $5,000 a second, everyday of the year. Is this okay with you?

3. Is America safer because of this war?

4. What are you most afraid of, terrorist attacks, or losing everything you've worked due to the alarming downfall of our economy? Would you rather tackle a potential terrorist or tackle potential homelessness and starvation?

5. Do you feel that we as American men and women have become mice and micettes?

6. Osama bin Laden. Afghanistan? Weren't these little words the reason this war started in the first place? Do you EVER hear these words now?

7. Do you feel Bush is trying his best to start a war with Iran? If McCain is elected president, do you feel he'll continue where Bush left off with this Iraq war? If so, will he fulfill Bush's wishes of starting a war with Iran? If this were to happen, can we as Americans afford this?

8. If McCain wins the elections in November, do you feel the DRAFT will be enacted again?

9 Do you feel the majority of our American heroes in Iraq will vote for McCain? If you do, you're WRONG!

10. I had no idea McCain had gone AWOL on the GI Bill, but I do now, thanks to a LJ person who enformed me of this. Thank you alphagaze!!

MUMBLES MCCAIN AWOL ON GI Bill

For the love of God, VOTE OBAMA!!


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davev1968
Apr. 10th, 2008 08:52 pm (UTC)
1. Are you better of financially because of the Bush Administration, and HIS war?
Last I checked, Congress approved this war, therefore it is OUR war, and if that is too much for you to swallow, THEIR war. I don't think the war has effected my financial status.

2. This war is costing tax payers $5,000 a second, everyday of the year. Is this okay with you?
That is US$157,680,000,000 per year. That is not too bad. Especially when you consider what else it could be put toward.

3. Is America safer because of this war?
Apparently, yes.

4. What are you most afraid of, terrorist attacks, or losing everything you've worked due to the alarming downfall of our economy? Would you rather tackle a potential terrorist or tackle potential homelessness and starvation?
Neither, and I would rather tackle the terrorists because that is a problem that could be solved. Want to end homelessness and starvation in the U.S., divert all the funds NGO aid groups send overseas to Americans.

5. Do you feel that we as American men and women have become mice and micettes?I feel many have become reactionary idiots.

6. Osama bin Laden. Afghanistan? Weren't these little words the reason this war started in the first place? Do you EVER hear these words now?
Yes, I do.

7. Do you feel Bush is trying his best to start a war with Iran? If McCain is elected president, do you feel he'll continue where Bush left off with this Iraq war? If so, will he fulfill Bush's wishes of starting a war with Iran? If this were to happen, can we as Americans afford this?
No. Yes and No. Bush does not wish to start a war with Iran, therefore it is a moot point. Again, a moot point.

8. If McCain wins the elections in November, do you feel the DRAFT will be enacted again?
The only people who have talked about starting a draft are Democrats, so no, I do not think that.

9 Do you feel the majority of our American heroes in Iraq will vote for McCain? If you do, you're WRONG!Is that a question or are you speaking for them without evidence?

10. I had no idea McCain had gone AWOL on the GI Bill, but I do now, thanks to a LJ person who enformed me of this. Thank you alphagaze!!
I see. He has not read the bill so he is AWOL on it? Maybe you should try an actual news source instead of an obviously biased blog.

Edited at 2008-04-10 08:53 pm (UTC)
playgirl
Apr. 10th, 2008 11:11 pm (UTC)
majority answered Obama
It hasn’t affected my financial status yet, but who knows what the future has in store for us. All I know is that it’s impossible for me to cut more corners. I do a lot of praying.

It was OUR war right after 911, but then after a while, things starting smelling a little fishy.

2. This war is costing tax payers $5,000 a second, everyday of the year. Is this okay with you?
$5,000 a second spent on war me physically ill.

Agreed.

When? Once every other year? I never seem to hear those words coming out of Bush’s mouth. All I ever hear is Iraq, Iraq, Iraq, and the sky is falling!

Iran war? Whether it’s a moot point or not, I believe he is.

I believe if McCain wins, we’ll start hearing a lot about the draft.

I saw the live video this morning on Yahoo’s main page, where the soldiers were asked who they were voting for. The majority answered Obama, some said Hillary, and a COUPLE said McCain. Went to look for video, but it’s gone now.

Of course McCain’s read the bill, and as yet, he continues to mumble when asked about it.
ubet_cha
Apr. 10th, 2008 08:53 pm (UTC)
I’m voting for Obama if he makes it, but you know most of Pelosi’s talking points are just smoke she’s blowing up our ass, right?


1- The current recession has more to do with greed in the housing industry, both at the corporate and consumer level then any national policy. Social spending under Bush has increased, not decreased.

http://economistsview.typepad.com/economistsview/2008/02/the-myth-of-run.html


8. Every effort to start the draft again during the past few years has been sponsored by the Democrats…….because they want to incite people……The Republicans will never pass the draft for an occupation because they know it would alienate their constituency.

http://www.theorator.com/bills108/hr163.html

BUT you’re right about McCain wanting to use the military for just about everything. Lets just hope Obama wins Pennsylvania.
tigron_x
Apr. 10th, 2008 09:48 pm (UTC)
Part 2 of 2
    6. Osama bin Laden. Afghanistan? Weren't these little words the reason this war started in the first place? Do you EVER hear these words now?


Who's Osama? :P

    7. Do you feel Bush is trying his best to start a war with Iran? If McCain is elected president, do you feel he'll continue where Bush left off with this Iraq war? If so, will he fulfill Bush's wishes of starting a war with Iran? If this were to happen, can we as Americans afford this?



Yes, McCain will pick up where Bush left off. I don't think either of them desire a war, but I think they're prepared to wage one to accomplish their means.

    8. If McCain wins the elections in November, do you feel the DRAFT will be enacted again?


I don't think so. I think that would cause a revolt, especially if the Democrat vote gets split.

    9 Do you feel the majority of our American heroes in Iraq will vote for McCain? If you do, you're WRONG!


I think they would vote for Obama. And, I don't think a soldier in Iraq is a hero. I think he's brave, but not a hero. He might be saving the guy next to him, but that doesn't make him a hero in my book. Sorry.


tigron_x
Apr. 10th, 2008 09:50 pm (UTC)
Part 1 of 2
    1. Are you better of financially because of the Bush Administration, and HIS war?



His actions do not affect my finances. They do affect my business decisions though. For example, due to the war we have experienced inflation. Therefore, it is not ideal for anyone to hold his/her wealth in FRNs. It would wise to hold one's wealth in precious metals such as silver or gold.


    2. This war is costing tax payers $5,000 a second, everyday of the year. Is this okay with you?



Definitely not. When Congress borrows money on the credit of the United States, bonds are thus legislated into existence and deposited as credit entries in Federal Reserve banks. United States bonds, bills and notes constitute money as affirmed by the Supreme Court (Legal Tender Cases, 110 U.S. 421), and this money when deposited with the Fed becomes collateral from whence the Treasury may write checks against the credit thus created in its account (12 USC 391). For example, suppose Congress appropriates an expenditure of $1 billion. To finance the appropriation Congress creates the $1 billion worth of bonds out of thin air [so to speak] and deposits it with the privately owned Federal Reserve System. Upon receiving the bonds, the Fed credits $1 billion to the Treasury's checking account, holding the deposited bonds as collateral. When the United States deposits its bonds with the Federal Reserve System, private credit is extended to the Treasury by the Fed. Under its power to borrow money, Congress is authorized by the Constitution to contract debt, and whenever something is borrowed it must be returned. When Congress spends the contracted private credit, each use of credit is debt which must be returned to the lender, in this case the Fed. Since Congress authorizes the expenditure of this private credit, the United States incurs the primary obligation to return the borrowed credit, creating a National Debt which results when credit is not returned.

Every undeclared war since WWII has been funded by the Fed instead of nationally with public money. However, U.S. Citizen who are held as chattel, voluntarily might I add, for the National Debt are the ones who pay for it. So, in the above paragraph it's actually misleading to say that Congress creates the $1 billion in bond money out of thin air. It is actually created out of a suppositional wagering scheme or a tontine that everybody is fooled in pledging themselves as surety for the National Debt.


    3. Is America safer because of this war?



No... we're seen as imperialist.


    4. What are you most afraid of, terrorist attacks, or losing everything you've worked due to the alarming downfall of our economy? Would you rather tackle a potential terrorist or tackle potential homelessness and starvation?



Since your question limits me to the choices you listed. I have to go with more afraid of terrorist attacks than the way the economy is because the economy is evaluated in with regards to the current monetary system, thus limited. Anyone who knows how to work outside those limits is not affected by the economy.

Potential terrorist because their attack could cause homelessness or starvation.

Overall though, I don't find terrorism to be the threat we're lead to believe. I find our current form of government to be the biggest threat we face. We need to get back to a constitutional republic.


    5. Do you feel that we as American men and women have become mice and micettes?



I think Americans are sheep that are being blindly led to the slaughter.
neo_prodigy
Apr. 10th, 2008 10:19 pm (UTC)
dlanor
Apr. 10th, 2008 10:46 pm (UTC)
Lots of questions
At one time I was OK with the war, but that is not what we are in now, it is more a holding/police action and that is not what we signed on for. It is time to withdraw, like in Vietnam, take our licking and move on.

I am not happy with the amount of money being spent on it. There is probably not much I can do about that.

My major concern at the moment is the economy, which should be of primary concern to everyone. I don't know who is responsible, I think it is brought on by several factors. It will take a long time to work thru.

Your choice in the election, just remember if he is elected that he was your man. Personally I could never vote for a man who may really be aligned with the Muslums. He could give away the keys to the country and never even know it.

People do elect those who they deserve and I hope we do not deserve Obama.
daddy
Apr. 11th, 2008 12:32 am (UTC)
1. I am finantially better NOW than I was before BUSH was voted in even though I am making a lot less now. I am disappointed in your use of the term HIS war though. It was voted for by ALL of congress. The first World War was called Mr Wilson's War by the ultra rich and those wanting to stay out of it. The World War II was called Mr Roosevelt's War by the same snobbish people. I cannot think of you in the same way.

2. YES It will be over when We WIN and they loose.

3. YES As I said previously we have not had any more attacks on US Soil.

4. BOTH and we will loose everything iof OBAMA or Hillary is elected The average taxers will go up by at least 50% Mark my words. Its bad enough right now that 40% of people in the US who recieve benefits from the US Government paid -0- in federal of state income taxes.

5. NO only those pansy assed pacifist and hippies have become mice and micettes? There are still plenty of Men and Women who have integrity and are ready to defend their country.

6. Those words were not the ONLY reason for us going in. and YES I still hear them quite a lot.

7. NO Bush is NOT trying to start a war with IRAN and I doubt that McCain will either. McCain has too many liberal views to continue with a lot of Bush's ideas. When Nixon was running everyone said he wopuld INCREASE the bombing in Vietnam, much like Johnson sis. If you remember NIXON got us OUT of Vietnam.
Everyone thought that Reagan was gonna push the button.. We had peace and a time of plenty during reagans administration.

8. The Draft will never be instituted again. The All Volunteer service is getting plenty of people to enlist. If the3 Democratic Senate would stop cutting troop strength there would be even more troops.

9 Where do you get your info? many of the troops WILL vote for McCain, because they sure as hell dont want Hillary of Obama as Commander in CHief.

10. Everyone has gone AWOL on the GI Bill Even Hillary and Obama. Check the Federal Register and see how they voted for not only the GI Bill but the closing of bases, reduction if Air Force Aircraft and Navy Ship numbers

For the love of God, VOTE OBAMA!!


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asifallforever
Apr. 11th, 2008 01:46 am (UTC)
I was actually doing better when i was only making about 14.50 an hour. I make almost 18 now and can barely make ends meet. On top of that i don't spend nearly as much as i used to and i still have less.
uglyface2
Apr. 11th, 2008 04:30 am (UTC)
SUPPORT OUR SOLDIERS. BRING THEM BACK HOME!

Support our police. Take them off the streets.
moon_shine
Apr. 11th, 2008 07:17 am (UTC)
come and take a trip with me ;o)
Hey Sunshine I was just looking at your pic and it looks like you lost a lot of weight you are all bones now but you have some sexy bons there ;) Wink Wink hehehee...

Did I tell you Obama and Hillary were just here last weekend Bill even gave a speech at the local school the day before, you see we have 8 super delegates and we are the last state to have a primary. And Obama even spent the night down the street I will tell you more later

1.Are you better of financially because of the Bush Administration, and HIS war?
No none of us are

2.This war is costing taxpayers $5,000 a second, everyday of the year. Is this okay with you?
No never has been you know me Savanah I pay as I go and I think the gov should not be going so far in to det in the end we are all going to have to pay for this for years

3.Is America safer because of this war?
No we are less safe now we have more people that hate us and china and the Saudis now own our det not a good thing someday they will want some thing and call in that card.

4.What are you most afraid of, terrorist attacks, or losing everything you've worked due to the alarming downfall of our economy? Would you rather tackle a potential terrorist or tackle potential homelessness and starvation?

If it were up to me Sunshine I would work to stop homelessness and starvation? And I do what I can

5. Do you feel that we as American men and women have become mice and micettes?

No it just takes time to get criminals like bush and his administration out of office

6. Osama bin Laden. Afghanistan? Weren't these little words the reason this war started in the first place? Do you EVER hear these words now?
No it was Oil Money and greed that pushed this war and still is if you are a Oilman that is.

7. Do you feel Bush is trying his best to start a war with Iran? If McCain is elected president, do you feel he'll continue where Bush left off with this Iraq war? If so, will he fulfill Bush's wishes of starting a war with Iran? If this were to happen, can we as Americans afford this?
You know I posted a comment here a wile back talking about the worlds largest oil fields {Unbeknown to most Americans, oil fields dot northern Afghanistan near its border with Turkmenistan. But the real jackpot is under the Caspian Sea. Between confirmed and estimated oil reserves, Kazakhstan is destined to become the world's largest oil-producing nation, and will one-day dwarf even Saudi Arabia.
For the U.S., more production means cheaper oil, lower production and transportation costs, and higher corporate profits. The Kazakhs would be happy to work with us, but their oil is frustratingly landlocked. The shortest and cheapest of all possible pipelines would run from the Caspian to the Persian Gulf via Iran},
But anyway they need the pipe lines to get the oil to market and Iran is where they want them to go and yes I am afraid they will try some thing before Bush gets out of office

{{{{{{{Edit: I just found this interesting this company was just surfing my journal after post in this how funny :o) maybe they know some thing we do not? hum
Sunoco, Inc.
Has refineries in the northeast US. Markets gasoline, motor oils, lubricants, and petrochemicals. Operates petroleum and crude oil pipelines. }}}}}}

8. If McCain wins the elections in November, do you feel the DRAFT will be enacted again? No

9. Do you feel the majority of our American heroes in Iraq will vote for McCain? If you do, you're WRONG! I have to agree with you Savanah on this as most things on I here I do

Now that I did this bunch Questions for you,.
you have to come and go on that that trip with me in our Balloon so we can just play and have some fun OK? :o) Wink Wink

Love you sunshine ;o)


Edited at 2008-04-15 06:44 pm (UTC)
ayoub
Apr. 11th, 2008 09:33 am (UTC)
Definitely bring 'em home!
donchep
Apr. 11th, 2008 03:32 pm (UTC)
Ok,

since you want to know what I think :)

1. The question is a bit loaded, because you do force a correlation between my finances and this war. I think it's a factor in the state of the economy along with many others non-war related. I think , in general, the Bush adminstration's mishandling of all the factors in this piss poor economy has plenty to do with it.

2. It wouldn't be ok with me even if it was $5,000 a year. It's not about the money. When I hear Petraeus sound unsure of his own answers and how they don't jibe with many of the "facts" as spoken by the President, I know that this war is losing legitimacy. So I'm not ok with even another nickel except that I don't see a choice as to the spending, because I don't want to see the guys and girls over there unprotected while the hawks continue this ruinous course.

3. Actually the best question is, are Americans more free since the war? The Patriot Act is almost deadset on nullifying the Bill of Rights.
I guess it's just easier than declaring martial law. Ben Franklin said it best : "They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security"

4. See number 3.

5. I'm sorry I don't get your point. I don't think we are. The fear tactics employed by members of the GOP aren't working. People are afraid of what they are witnessing. The downturn of the dollar, the credit crisis, and didn't we just have an 81,000 job loss in February?

6. Unless he magically appearewd in Basra or is part of the Sadr militia, um no.

7. Kind of loaded, I don't think he's trying to start a war with Iran, but he's certainly not doing anything to try to prevent the situation that would lead to it. And to be honest, we created a situation that shifted the blance of power to the shi-ite factions in Iraq, so if there is a free election, it favors Sadr whose faction favors Iran. So, any overture that resmbles a renewed struggle in a new place only keeps the Iraqi front open as well. It's a mess.

8.No. A draft is instant kill for support of the war and overrides EVERYTHING they have said about the success of the surges, etc. A draft would be the first sign of failure in the progress they've been claiming.

9. I can't speak for what a majority do or say, but I can tell you this much daddy and davev1968 will be in for a rude awakening. There is solid evidence that the troops on the ground are , in fact favoring, anti-war candidates.

Earlier this year the FEC reports showed Ron Paul with the strongest donor base among military personnel and their families. Barack Obama came in second. Emphasis was put on individual contributors, and since Obama's biggest base has consistently been donors giving between 25-100 dollars, it's extremely likely these are from the grunts on the ground.

Disclosure is dynamic and the numbers are still holding true. the Center for Responsive Politics - a non-profit, non-partisan group that only compiles financial data and provides good demographics - illustrates a trend. In 2008, for the first time since 1992, the Democratic party has raised more money from the military sector in a set that doesn't count PAC money or the actual NGO defense industry.

And right now Obama only has a slight edge over McCain, but then that's because he's got Clinton in second place for military donors. Once Obama is the only candidate fro the Democrats, that number should increase.

And to further illustrate how there is evidence of a trend. There is an ABC report that shows there are troops who are not going to vote McCain. On it's face it's not an indicator, but coupled with the data from the CRP it helps hold up the numbers. There is no conclusion that can be derived strictly from this News Report because there was no attempt at a sample set methodology, nor were any claims made that troops favor Obama over McCain, but it's still some evidence of support among the troops for Obama and the REASON : a candidate who favors bringing them home.

http://abcnews.go.com/WN/story?id=4244798&page=1






donchep
Apr. 11th, 2008 03:32 pm (UTC)
10. The claims that he isn't signing because he hasn't read it doesn't wash nor is it consistent with how McCain handled this kind of legislation in the past. Of course it's politically motivated. Right now as he's establishing himself as the new and improved non-Maverick John McCain, he can't afford to be the 60th signature that gives this bill a veto-proof endorsement.

I mean even John Warner and Chuck Hagel both said this bill should have been a no-brainer for McCain. So yeah, he did go AWOL and on rare occasion actually stayed on the reservation at a time when he should have shown that independence he's famous for. And this also goes to question #9 as a prediction that this will also affect his votes from the troops overseas.

With the rotation pools exhausted and the soldiers in Iraq not getting to enjoy the reduced rotations to 12 months, who do you think they are going to start supporting?
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donchep
Apr. 11th, 2008 08:11 pm (UTC)
Re: What is wrong Savanah???
Dude, seriously, man up will you? You put her on the spot when you whine like this and it only makes you look hypersensitive.

It's not fair to her either to display it for everyone to see. For the sake of dignity make it private, no?
nishar
Apr. 26th, 2008 09:57 pm (UTC)
If we go after Iran, we will be in a world war. Russia has made it plain that a US attack against Syria or Iran would lead to a retaliation by their nuclear weapons. A McCain presidency will lead to our being destroyed.

If you read what Osama was hoping for, he is getting it in spades. He had hoped to draw us into a protracted war in Afganistan and with luck Iraq and break our backs as he did the Russians. He wants us to fight until we go bankrupt. He hasn't launched a major attack against us for one simple reason: he doesn't have too. His war in Afganistan and the war in Iraq is making us go broke and crippling our economy. Why would he want to attack us here when he can do it over their? I guarentee you this, once we start pulling out our troops, Osama will then launch a major attack against us.
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