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VIDEO: Scare Tactic Warmonger Bush At It AGAIN!

Bush, Congress in Spy Bill Standoff

1. Spy Bill Standoff - Do you agree or not that government's authority to spy on foreign phone calls and e-mails that pass through the U.S. should be approved again. Why?

2. President Bush wants immunity for telecom companies. Do you agree or not? Why?



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Feb. 15th, 2008 09:55 pm (UTC)
Heh, anyone finally having that great feeling that President Bush is finally becoming more irrelevant each day? And by all means please push these bills now so we can see how McCain votes on them.

I'm sure the day he called for a backing of McCain by the GOP, his support probably dropped by a few points.
Feb. 15th, 2008 10:22 pm (UTC)
like hope, but different
heh, have you seen this yet?

Feb. 15th, 2008 10:31 pm (UTC)
Re: like hope, but different
Yes I have. I love the 10,000 years line.
Feb. 15th, 2008 10:59 pm (UTC)
Re: like hope, but different
And the gleam in his eyes when he said it!
Feb. 15th, 2008 11:04 pm (UTC)
Re: like hope, but different
Ummm have you seen this video? The gleam in McCain's eyes?????
Feb. 16th, 2008 12:16 am (UTC)
Re: like hope, but different
Which video?

Yes, he seems to come alive at the mere word of WAR!

My greatest wish is that our American soldiers be brought back home where they'll be safe and sound, and for America to live in PEACE for the next 100 years or a 1,000 years or 10,000 years to come!
Feb. 15th, 2008 10:57 pm (UTC)
Re: like hope, but different
Terrifying how he finds the tune of </i>.Boom, Bomb Iran!</i> comical! The gleam in his eyes terrifies me even more!

So, 100 years of war are fine with him, and he thinks Americans AREN'T concerned if we're there for 100 years or a 1,000 years or 10,000 years? Can you envision living the rest of our live in war, and knowing that if this man becomes our President, and all future presidents follow suit, this war will continue for the next 10,000?! Oh my God! He sure doesn't believe in PEACE ON EARTH, huh?!

And here I always thought he was a soft-hearted and peaceful little old man. Now I see I was mistaken!
Feb. 15th, 2008 10:20 pm (UTC)
watch what you say, Homeland Security is watching
Feb. 15th, 2008 10:58 pm (UTC)
But I'm in the bathroom!
Feb. 15th, 2008 10:58 pm (UTC)
Oh yes! Every government should be held unaccountable for their actions because they're like God, infallible!

And a government's authroity should not be questioned! I mean, it's fairly obvious that a thing created can never be greater than the creator that brought it into existence. And we all know God created this government, and this government created man, therefore man can never be greater than/or rule over this government. You agree right?

Lol... now all sarcasm aside, this government has no authority except in the minds of men. Government is nothing more than a tool used by a select few for financial gain. All is fair in love and war. Though, the question you should be asking is whether or not the telecomunicatoin industry has the right to contract away your privacy. Last I checked, I belong to no one, thus no one has the right to become a 3rd party in my contracts without my consent, let alone to be held unaccountable for their actions. My words are my intellectual property, and if they are to be taken and sold without my consent, then I believe just compensation is in order.
Feb. 15th, 2008 11:09 pm (UTC)
Oh and to add.... they're selling security. That's what they bring to the table. Well, I don't need their false sense of security. If they can't handle a bunch of camel jockies stealing 3 planes, then I opt for a new form of security. And last I checked, our government has police officers infilitrating peaceful assembelies in order to instigate havoc in the public. So, why do I want to entrust the security of the American people to an organization that is part of the problem?
Feb. 16th, 2008 12:07 am (UTC)
I don't mind at all them spying on foreign phone calls and e-mails that go to some U.S. citizen, but I'm not too keen on them spying on regular American citizens, nor on immunity for telecom companies who have probably ruined citizens lives because they made a MISTAKE.
Feb. 16th, 2008 12:36 am (UTC)
I conduct international calls and international emails. Do you really think they only limit their spying to the emails and calls that are sent internationally? Or, do they put me on a watch list and watch my entire network?

I would say the latter. See, in todays global economy, the odds of one doing international business is very likely. So by allowing them to spy on communications with foreigners, you're giving them an inch. Give an inch and they'll take a mile.

Feb. 15th, 2008 11:44 pm (UTC)
I'm just wondering what happened to the right to privacy...
Feb. 16th, 2008 12:10 am (UTC)
Lets go ask Bill Clinton, because if I'm not mistaken, he's the one (while President of the U.S.) who was responsible for our losing our right to privacy.
Feb. 16th, 2008 01:34 am (UTC)
Well, first off, you can never lose your rights. They are God-given. However, you can grant them away. So, no one is responsible for the subjugation of your rights but you yourself. Basically, in some way, shape, or form you unconsciouslly bargained away your rights.

Unconscionable bargain: A contract which no man in his senses, not under delusion, would make, on the one hand, and which no fair and honest man would accept, on the other.

When, where, and how is most likely your next question. And your answer can be found in the close examination of your Birth Certificate, Social Security Card, Drivers License, Passport, and any other document credited to your all-caps TRADE NAME that you the flesh-and-blood being is held in surety for; i.e. the debtor.

You gotta do the research yourself, and I'll explain what I can, but in short, that all-caps name on all those documents is a corporation (or corporately colored persona) that you are led to believe is you. Even the name written in correct English grammar is not you. Your name is your property. You are not your name. What the government has done is associate you with a corporation. Hence, all those documents listed above have a name that looks like yours except it's in all-caps. Why?

Basically, because a thing created can never be greater than the creator that brought it into existence, the government needed to create a corporation in order to impose it's rule. God created man; man created government; government created corporations. So, government can not impose its rule upon the flesh-and-blood human being because he/she created government just like we cannot impose our rule on God. So, how are they throwing people in jail, taxing (robbing) you and so on?

Well, as long as you believe you are that corrupted all-caps TRADE NAME, then you're going along with the fictional reality that the legal masters of this world have created. But, if you know yourself, you know you're not your name, and you're definitely not the all-caps corrupted name created by the government. Your name is your property, nothing more. What you have to do is gain control over that all-caps TRADE NAME and start treating it as a corporation. It would also do you good to gain control over your real name.

I don't have all the answers yet, but hopefully this gets you thinking.
Feb. 16th, 2008 07:11 am (UTC)
what? Bill Clinton helped us get some of our rights back that the GOP had taken from US
and now HLS that is Bush not Clinton. Sunshine
Feb. 23rd, 2008 02:59 pm (UTC)
Re: what?
Yes, he's the one who started it, just like he started NAFTA which left countless Americans without jobs!
Feb. 23rd, 2008 07:05 pm (UTC)
Re: what?
Well he never started NAFTA Newt Gingrich did he did back it I might add Hillery did not like it and I never did like it my self. But when Bill Clinton was president we had more jobs around here. And our deficit was balanced now we have one big mess and you can thank Bush for that one too.

And what rights are you talking about? I never lost any rights because of Bill Clinton and he had nothing to do with Homeland security that is all Bush's doing
Feb. 23rd, 2008 08:29 pm (UTC)
Re: what?
Yes, you had more jobs over there, since you lived FAR away from the border cities like El Paso, that lost 1000's of jobs, because of NAFTA!! But you'll know about lost jobs if Hillary wins, because she wants to extend it throughout the U.S. Right now MEXICO'S truck drivers can go so many miles out. If the Clinton's further NAFTA, you and the rest who live away from the border cities will see just WHAT we went through because of CLINTON!!

Read when CLINTON signed the NAFTA BILL on September 14, 1993


And read this, and look at the picture behind CLINTON!!


And I'll get you the facts about Clinton being the first responsible for making it LEGAL for the government to spy on it's PRIVATE citizens with wire taps!!

I'm SHOCKED you didn't know this!!
Feb. 23rd, 2008 08:59 pm (UTC)
Re: what?
Why are we fighting over this Savanah? Why will it change any thing who is right and who is wrong. You know we can both be right in the end we want the same thing and you know it. We are a lot closer then we are far apart.

Love you my Friend!

Edited at 2008-02-24 06:48 am (UTC)
Feb. 16th, 2008 10:56 am (UTC)
That should have sparked a revolution back then...
Feb. 16th, 2008 02:10 am (UTC)
In respose to your questions only...

1. Spy Bill Standoff - Do you agree or not that government's authority to spy on foreign phone calls and e-mails that pass through the U.S. should be approved again. Why?

NO it was approved once it should continue the Security of our country is NOT something that the Democrats and Republicans should banter back and forth like a damn beach ball. The screening process for these calls is set up to trigger on certain words that are said by known terrorist operatives and other questionable contacts. They are NOT screening every single call in the world. They are not acreening those calls from a US location to a US location unless they are from a known Terrorist organization or support group. HELL for what its worth if they wanna bug my telephone they are more than welcome to do so.. They will be bored to death.

2. President Bush wants immunity for telecom companies. Do you agree or not? Why?

YES its called being good Americans and helping protect our country. Back at the latter 1930's Roosevelt wanted to restrict the sales of some things to Nazi Germany, the Congress being operated on by political action committees and Lobbiest of many companys wanted to keep selling and increase their war profits. Germany was not fighting the US... SO USSteel and Bethlehem Steel continued to sell high grade carbon steel to Germany. Immagine U.S. Troops felt when they looked into captured Gernman Tanks after the Battle of the Buldge, and found the US Steel logo stamped into the steel on the Tanks. Bethlehem steel was used in the U-boats that prowled the Atlantic and sunk the Allied shipping and sent thousands of Merchant Seamen and US Sailors to their death.

The same damn thing is happening right now. Both republicans and democrats are playing their damn games to try and secure their positions in the House and Senate for another term by trying tio look like good little servants of the people by standing before cameras and paying lip service.

When it comes down to the line there is only ONE THING that is Important, and that is the Security of our Country and in the same light the security of Canada and all our other allies.

Those ragheads have shown that they dont give a damn about anyone including their own women and children.

Have you seen their newest bomb hiding technique? Its a fake pregnant belly where women hide mails glass and explosives in and detonate while they stand in a croud.
Feb. 16th, 2008 05:56 am (UTC)
This de facto government you look to for protection will not help you. You are nothing more than a human resource, an expendable subject of the state. In fact, thanks to Roosevelt's help through issuance of Executive Orders, and Congress's Amendatory Act of March 9, 1933 to the Trading With the Enemy Act, you are now an enemy of the state.

So, how in the world can this US government protect this country when you are seen as an enemy?
Feb. 16th, 2008 06:58 am (UTC)
Ill have to research that, but I think you might be in error.

As for the Government its done a good job since 9-11. No more attacks.
Feb. 19th, 2008 06:18 pm (UTC)
Part 1 of 2
To help you research what I've said, I give you the following:

TRADING WITH THE ENEMY ACT OF OCTOBER 6, 1917. (H.R. 4960, Public, No. 91) "...(b) During time of war or during any other period of national emergency declared by the President, the President may, through any agency that he may designate, or otherwise, investigate, regulate, or prohibit, under such rules and regulations as may prescribe, by means of licenses or otherwise, any transacations in foreign exchange, transfers of credit between or payments by banking institutions as defined by the President, and export, hoarding, melting, or earmarking of gold or silver coin or bullion or currency, by any person within the United States or any place subject to the jurisdiction thereofl and the President may require any person enganged in any transaction referred to in this subdivision to furnish under oath, complete information relative thereto, including the production of any books of account, contracts, letters or other pappers, in connection therewith in the custody or control of such person, before or after such transaction is completed..." and "(c) Such other individuals, or body or class of individuals, as may be natives, citizens, or subjects of any nation with which the United States is at war, other than citizens of the United States, wherever resident or wherever doing business, as the President, if he shall find the safety of the United States or the successful prosecution of the war shall so require, may, by proclamation, include within the term 'enemy'." [Underline emphasis added.] See Note.

    Note: A Government's tactic of fostering emergencies and stepping in as hero to extricate the people from the "difficulty" by dramatically increasing state power is as old as governments themselves. The U.S. bankruptcy occuring in 1861 placed the country under Emergency War Powers (12 Stat 319), which has never been repealed and exists in Title 50 United States Code (USC) §§ 212, 213, 215, Appendix 16, 26 Code of Federal Regulations (CFR) Chapter 1 § 303.1-6(a), and 31 CFR Chapter 5 § 500.701 Penalties. The "Civil War" was not fought over slavery, but over private bank control of America. On October 6, 1917, the United States passed the Trading With the Enemy Act (H.R. 4960, Public Law 91), granting itself extraordinary additional powers under the cover of WWI.

    On March 9, 1933, just after Roosevelt's Inaguration, Congress passed the Amendatory Act (48 Stat. 1) to the Trading With the Enemy Act, at a time when the United States was not in a shooting war with any foreign foe (Government had become an administation for the creditors in bankruptcy). The Amended version provided legal justification for dramatic increases in the power, scope, and authority of the U.S. Government (now owned by, and an administrative agency of, the Federal Reserve/IMF bankers). Aspects of such increases are:

Feb. 19th, 2008 06:24 pm (UTC)
Part 2 of 2

The President became "King" via Section 1 of Title 1 of the Act:

    "The actions, regulations, rules, licenses, orders, and proclamations heretofore or hereinafter taken, promulgated, made, or issued by the President of the United States or Secretary of the Treasury, pursuant to the authority conferred by subdivision (b) of section 5 of the Act of October 6, 1917, as amended, are hereby approved and confirmed.

This means that anything the President wants to do is "approved and confirmed" automatically, in advance (i.e. "hereinafter") and backed by the full force, effect, and power of the "Government." Title 12 USC 95(a) states in part:

    "(a) In order to provide for the safer and more effective operation of the National Banking System and the Federal Reserve System [indicating that the President Acts for, on behalf of, and under the direction of the Federal Reserve]...during such emergency period as the President of the United Stated by proclamation may prescribe,..."

Every President since Roosevelt has reaffirmed the "national emergency" and issued "Executive Orders" under USC 95(a), and continued the "reorganization" of the country in favor of the Federal Reserve/IMF bankers. Since March 18, 1968, 31 USC 5112 (84 Stat. 1769; 1970) and 31 USC 5119, Federal Reserve Notes have not been redeemable in silver. In 1971-1973 President Nixon declared total international bankruptcy, rendering private Federal Reserve "Notes" unredeemable, non-negotiable ("floating") pieces of paper as a medium of exchange. These Notes are listed in 26 USC 165(g) as "worthless securities."

The original Trading With the Enemy Act excluded citizens of the United States from being treated as the enemy when involved in transaction wholly within the United States. The Amendatory Act of March 9, 1933, however included the people of the United States as the enemy by inserting the following:

    "...by any person within the United States or any place subject to the jurisdiction thereof;..." Chapter 1, Title 1, Section 1(b).

By operation of law, all persons ("citizens of the United States") involved in monetary transaction "within the United States" became official enemies of the U.S. Government and, as such, required a license for almost every type of commercial activity imaginable. The fact that sovereign Americans do not qualify as "persons with the United States," and hence are not subjects of the legislation, was not explained for them by the U.S. Government in 1933, nor anytime thereafter (and never will be).
Feb. 23rd, 2008 03:04 pm (UTC)
1. Spy on communication coming from terrorist countries, to the recipient in the U.S., but not on regular American citizens, unless they are pretty certain they have cause to do so.

2. One assumption on their part on an innocent person, could ruin that person's life forever.
Feb. 23rd, 2008 04:11 pm (UTC)
Probably one of the best lines to come from the Star Trek Movies was was supposed to be an ancient Vulcan teaching.

"The neads of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one."

It is an accurate statement. Look at our system of jurisprudence. Is it flawless? NO but it is still the best in the world.

Will some people get caught up in the listening in yes but nothing or noone is perfect. There was only ONE who was perfect and look what we did to Him.
Feb. 16th, 2008 03:19 am (UTC)
I just wanted to let you know that I am removing you from my friends list. You're a nice person but I don't read your journal anymore. This is mostly because a majority of your posts deal with America and its politics. It's commendable that you are so passionate about your country - but I am not. Lately it is difficult to go a day without hearing about America, so much so that it almost feels like I live there.
Feb. 16th, 2008 04:56 am (UTC)
Who knows how I’ll feel tomorrow
I'm pretty diverse in my posts, because I write accordingly as to how I feel on a daily basis on any given issue. There are MANY facets to my personality, and I express them here as I truly feel. I’ve recently added a brand new interest to my life, and that’s the events of this country that I love so much and its politics.

Who knows how I’ll feel tomorrow; will I feel like a saint, a slut, a joker, a newscaster, a photographer, a poet, a politician, a patriot, a soldier, a freedom of arms advocate, or an activist on behalf of protecting our animals and our earth. Who will I be tomorrow? Only tomorrow will answer that question.

I'm truly sorry I've lost you as a LJ friend, but perhaps it was for the best, because it's probable I’ll be making various future biased and impartial political assertions from here on until November.

I wish you well haze. Bye.
Feb. 21st, 2008 03:22 pm (UTC)
Re: Who knows how I’ll feel tomorrow
You make awesome posts.
Feb. 20th, 2008 10:44 pm (UTC)
1.Spy Bill Standoff - Do you agree or not that government's authority to spy on foreign phone calls and e-mails that pass through the U.S. should be approved again. Why?

No and you know why this is America and we should never let anyone ever take away any of our hard fought for freedoms. I have had family members fight and some die for our constitution and our freedom and no one has the right to take away any of our rights with out our say so.

2. President Bush wants immunity for telecom companies. Do you agree or not? Why?

No they knew what risks they where taking violating our rights and all involved should be held to account for their actions even Bush! and the telecom companies

Just my feeling sunshine.
Feb. 23rd, 2008 02:58 pm (UTC)
1. I agree.

2. Absolutely not. They make a mistake and ruin a persons life, they should be held accountable!
Feb. 23rd, 2008 06:43 pm (UTC)
I agree.
ON 2 we are saying the same thing Sunshine
Love You!
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