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Luciano pavarotti - ADHD

Luciano pavarotti - ADHD



1. First of all, Rest in peace, my beloved
Luciano Pavarotti. You will be dearly missed!

2. Could you please educate me on ADHD?

There seems to be a problem with one of the little boys I cared for this summer while my cousin recuperated from her illness. There’s no doubt that this 9 year old boy is intelligent, because he was reading by the age of 3, and could tell time.

He is going to a very good school in San Antonio, but his mother tells me that the teachers have been complaining to her that he won’t do what they tell him to do. It isn’t that he’s disrupting the class or being rude, but when they give him something to do, he won’t do it, because he seems to be in another world. They feel he has ADHD, and want there mother to take him to a shrink, but I tell her not to do it, because then he will be labeled!

Was I wrong to tell her this?

I am just as worried about this as his mother is. Please tell me as much as you can on ADHD, and please give me some advice as to what to tell his mother to do.




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a_phoenix
Sep. 6th, 2007 05:26 pm (UTC)
1. Yes, it is a LOSS!! But let's be glad we had him for a while...
2. Don't have any experience with it. Sorry..
playgirl
Sep. 7th, 2007 02:09 am (UTC)
How I regret that I never had the opportunity to hear him sing in person!
thewalkingman
Sep. 6th, 2007 05:31 pm (UTC)
Absolutely the wrong thing to tell her.

Yes, people (especially kids) do sometimes get misdiagnosed with ADHD when they're just imaginative and energetic. But we've learned a lot about it over the last decade and they're getting much better at finding the genuine cases.

It's much better to take him to someone and find out if he genuinely has ADHD and get him treated for it, and able to learn about the coping mechanism for it than to potentially leave it untreated.

I have ADHD and I sincerely wish I had been diagnosed as a kid rather than as an adult. It would have saved me a lot of frustration and heartache if I'd been able to deal with it properly.

Setting up the notion that going to a psychiatrist as a weird or ugly thing is a really a really bad idea. There are millions of people who could benefit from seeing a doctor about neurological and psychological issues but refuse to go because they're worried about being labeled. It's a sad and dangerous stigma in our society, and you're reinforcing it for this boy and his mother.

What's the worst that can happen? They either find out that there is an issue and they help the boy deal with it, or they find out that there's nothing wrong and that he's just got a different perspective on the world, and he goes on as he was. Either way, both the boy and the mother are better off for it and shouldn't feel ashamed for having found out the truth.
playgirl
Sep. 7th, 2007 03:24 pm (UTC)
I'm surprised to find so many people with ADHD. I really had never heard of this until I heard that my nephew might have it.

I'm showing my cousin what you've written.

Thank you so much for taking the time of sharing your experience with ADHD, and your recommendation.
moon_shine
Sep. 6th, 2007 05:46 pm (UTC)
You know Sunshine what I think is that he has had an awful lot to deal with, with his mother having been sick and his dad over there. And all the moving around as of late and you know they like to put that tag of ADHD on kids for every thing Now days. It might help him to talk to someone but not someone they recommend because they have already labeled him it sounds like to me anyway.
But you know if it is hard for the adults in his life to deal with every thing going on think how hard it is for him.
Now I do not know if that has been much help for you ((Hugs))my friend
playgirl
Sep. 7th, 2007 05:40 pm (UTC)
Yes, he's had a pretty rough time. God only knows what's going through his little head, knowing his dad's in Iraq, and that his mother was so sick.

Thank you Sweety Pie, and hugs!
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ayoub
Sep. 6th, 2007 05:49 pm (UTC)
RE: Luciano - He will be sorely missed...

RE: ADHD - I wish I knew more about it, but you could always start with wikipedia :)

*hugs 'n' smooches*
playgirl
Sep. 7th, 2007 02:07 am (UTC)
What an incredible voice he had. Nobody on earth could sing Ave Maria, or any other song for that matter, as this man could.

Smooches all over your gorgeous face!
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harley1456
Sep. 6th, 2007 05:52 pm (UTC)
Generally, these days, it is an advantage to get labeled with a disability, the school is then required to make specil accomodations for the child's learning. Some parents actually PUSH to get children label in an effort to get them special treatment.
playgirl
Sep. 7th, 2007 03:26 pm (UTC)
I believe you're right, but I worry about my nephew being labeled for life as having a disability.

Thank you!
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sabrarosa
Sep. 6th, 2007 06:05 pm (UTC)
I have to agree with the person here who said that going to a Doc was a good idea and the reinforcing the ignorance about mental health is a bad one. Chances are the child just needs a little TLC to deal with the stress in his life from having an ill parent but the only one who will know for sure is a mental health professional. If Mom disagrees with the Doc then she can always take him for a second opinion.
playgirl
Sep. 7th, 2007 03:54 pm (UTC)
I just now spoke with her on the phone, and told her to read what all of you have contributed on this topic.

The teacher doesn't seem to be handling the situation very well, and has been calling my cousin on the phone and comparing him with the rest of the children in her class. My cousin says she doesn't like her, or her attitude, but is remaining courteous with her.

Thank you so much for taking the time to express your thoughts and ideas!

I'm going to be writing more on this in another post.

inspectorjury
Sep. 6th, 2007 06:32 pm (UTC)
I cannot find fault with taking the child to a professional but I do agree that it should be one that has not been recommend by the school system. As for suggesting a second opinion, some people don't have that kind of income.
playgirl
Sep. 7th, 2007 05:37 pm (UTC)
She's already made an appointment to see a doctor. It wasn't one recommended by the school. Sadly, it's with the military, and they really suck!!

What's the 2nd opinion?
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carrieslife
Sep. 6th, 2007 06:56 pm (UTC)
My son has ADHD and was failing until he got on the RIGHT meds. They tried about three until they found ones that worked for him. After that he started to excel in school.

And like someone else said, it may be because of what he has been going through because of his mom. But either way, maybe he needs someone to talk to about it, a doctor, and then that doctor can figure it out. It wouldn't hurt.

I wouldn't worry about getting labeled ADHD. So many kids are, and nobody even thinks twice about it anymore. I think it would be more important to get him the help he needs, whether it be meds or just someone to talk to, to see if he is having these issues because of his mom's illness and he had a hard time dealing with it. His education is too important.

xjenavivex
Sep. 6th, 2007 07:16 pm (UTC)
i absolutely agree. i also have experiences in this area. definitely allow him to get checked out. please.
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tigron_x
Sep. 6th, 2007 09:05 pm (UTC)
There is nothing wrong with getting him tested. I have been diagnosed with ADHD, even adult ADHD. But I'm not a firm believer in these psychological classifications. I'm not saying I rule them out, but they're not what they seem, in my opinion.

Definitely stay away from using drugs to treat him if you decide to go for treatment. But, also, there's nothing to treat in my opinion. I had my problems in school. What I found out on my own was that I'm highly intuitive and independent. The problem I had was with the schooling -- the way things were taught, and the way they imposed themselves on me. The kid is most likely and natural thinker and wants to express himself in his own way. Let him solve his own problems, but be there to guide him so that it's educational and productive.

So, talk to the kid to see what he wants, he just might tell you. See how he feels about things. I'm sure he knows or has an idea that education is important, and I'm sure he has a natural desire to learn, but the school system he is in just might not be what he needs.

Home schooling is a great alternative. The money you might shell out for testing might be better suited for home schooling.
playgirl
Sep. 7th, 2007 04:02 pm (UTC)
I had no idea you had ADHD, but then, I'd never really paid much attention to it until now.

I'm not worried at all anymore, because if you have it, then everything will work out right for my nephew, because you're so damn intelligent!

Thank you for sharing and teaching me so much about ADHD!
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quepid
Sep. 6th, 2007 10:59 pm (UTC)
In my area, 1/3rd of all kids are diagnosed with some level of ADHD. I think this is of course a misdiagnosis.

Here in our school system, they have cut out recess entirely. Children have lunch and 5 minutes to get from class to class. Yet kids are expected to sit quietly roughly 8 hrs a day and be sponges for what is being taught. Another factor is that these kids are young and energetic along with pumped full of sugars and caffeine. you can see why they are having a difficult time focusing or are hyperactive, all the energy of the world and no outlet. I think the obesity problem is directly related to poor nutrition and having limited to no physical activity. Instead of more physical activity and better nutrition, society has opted for a pharmacological approach.
playgirl
Sep. 7th, 2007 05:30 pm (UTC)
I firmly believe everything you have stated here, is a big contribution, not only to hyperactivity, but to the alarming amount of children who are developing diabetes.

Thank you!!

uglyface2
Sep. 7th, 2007 05:58 pm (UTC)
Wait, wait. On my Friends screen, there's another avatar. Is that... a face? And it's not blurred out?

So now I just imagine little green dots where the eyes are closed, and I've got a good idea what you look like. You're becoming less mechanical and more human.
orejen
Sep. 7th, 2007 06:14 pm (UTC)
Pete
I anonymously paid for 2 months of LJ for him before I read your comment that you took care of both the LJ and the pics. That was very nice of you. He seems like a nice guy, who needs a place like LJ. I am glad he gets a chance to share his pictures. I wish I had that kind of talent!
playgirl
Sep. 7th, 2007 06:33 pm (UTC)
Re: Pete
How very nice and sweet of you to do that, also! :o)

Yes, he's one of the sweetest, and most caring guys in LJ, with a lot of talent with his camera and graphics. It would have been a shame for us not to be able to see his creations anymore!

Hugs!

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asifallforever
Sep. 8th, 2007 12:46 am (UTC)
this is probably gonna annoy some people but..
ormembar
Sep. 9th, 2007 03:35 am (UTC)
1.- Se extrañara, una perdida en la larga lista de este año... que mal que los hombres buenos se van y malos quedan, aunque bueno asi es la vida
befxxx
Oct. 23rd, 2007 10:38 pm (UTC)
ADHD
i have adhd, and iv been fine, yes there are a few problems just make things more intresting, shrinks did nothing for me..
Re: ADHD - playgirl - Oct. 24th, 2007 03:14 pm (UTC) - Expand
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