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Virginia Introduces $3550 Speeding Ticket



I don't believe for one minute this has anything to do out of concern for public safety! It's all about political greed, and I'm pretty sure this law will spread throughout every State like wild fire!

I honestly believe these guys stay up all night thinking of ways to legally screw the American people!

Thoughts please!


Virginia Introduces $3550 Speeding Ticket



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wbahner
Jul. 8th, 2007 04:49 pm (UTC)
Albo, a senior partner in the Albo & Oblon, LLP traffic law firm, can expect to see a significant increase in business as motorists seek to protect their wallet from traffic tickets

Which I am sure had absolutely no bearing on his decision to support this bill.... *snort*
warpedpuppy
Jul. 8th, 2007 04:51 pm (UTC)
he's also spearheaded a lot of DUI legislation...which is the mainstay of his traffic business.

what a fuckin tool.
nstantkarma
Jul. 8th, 2007 05:17 pm (UTC)
I think it is ridiculous that they have such a policy on the books. I think it is border line unconstitutional because although I don't remember the exact wording but the spirit of it is that the punishment should not exceed the crime. I see after following the links within the document all the way to the .pdf document that Virginia put out I see that failure to utilize your blinker could cost $1050.00. I think that falls into the excessive zone. I do like what they are doing with some of them because the DUI type laws and the passing a school bus etc should carry very harsh penalties. There is one in there that is basically a judgement call by the officer called "Aggressive driving" and that I believe was also $1050. I also did not like the idea that they take any option away from the judges to modify sentences / fines. We trust them to render "life and death" decisions, but not traffic? I could rant about this all day but in the end you asked for opinions so here's mine I think it is a poor idea to make such broad and sweeping laws with no room for level of application by the people we empower to do exactly that for every other law.
tigron_x
Jul. 8th, 2007 09:51 pm (UTC)
Well, the Constitution was written in common law, and it only applies to American citizens or human beings. You have unwittingly submitted to the authority of the United State government by becoming a US citizen, and thus the Constitution no longer applies to you.. per se. Basically, they're not acting on you, they're acting on your 'straw man'. That's how they get away with this crap.

If you look at your license, social security card, and any other government issued document, the name on the card is in all capitalized letters. It is a legal entity that you have been deceived into believing is you. It is a fiction and you are held in surety for that fiction. A county is also a fiction. A fictional character can only act upon another fictional characters. Furthermore, if you go into "court", it is no longer a court of law, but rather a court of commerce. In this court of commerce, they ask for your name in order for you to contract with them and to begin the proceedings which is nothing more than a game of commerce. By giving a name, you're unwittingly stating you're part of their jurisdiction, thus giving them authority over you. Because contrary to what you've been led to believe, you do not have name as names are only given to legal entities or fictional entities or persons. You are not a person; you are a human being. For example, my name isn't David, but I am commonly refered to as David. Instead, human beings have titles. So my title is David-Paul of the Ottinger family.

So, you must become aware of the fact that in "court" they're not speaking in common day english; they're speaking in legalesse. It looks and sounds like english, but it's not.

For example, if they (even if it's a police officer) asks, "Do you understand?" They're not asking if you comprehend; they're asking if you stand-under their rules. Also, another one, the judge rules from a bench. The term bench, in latin, means banc; or bank. So the judge rules for the bank.

It's all a matter of commerce and not law. That's why they want you to get a driver's license.

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dlanor
Jul. 8th, 2007 06:59 pm (UTC)
Yep, it is all about getting more money for the greedy pols.
I feel sorry for those who get caught under this repressive tax bill.
Might be a good time to move from VA if it was me.
playgirl
Jul. 8th, 2007 08:10 pm (UTC)
But what if all States copy VA? I can already feel it in my bones that they will!
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ayoub
Jul. 8th, 2007 07:38 pm (UTC)
$3550?

That's freaking ridiculous!
playgirl
Jul. 8th, 2007 08:07 pm (UTC)
It’s freaking despotism!
photosexual
Jul. 8th, 2007 07:46 pm (UTC)
The law states plainly in the article: "The purpose of the civil remedial fees imposed in this section is to generate revenue," - so at least it's honest about the purpose, even if it's undignified in intent. Granted, it has a great chance to affect public safety because nobody who's informed will be stupid enough to break even minor laws now. Hard to get anyone hurt or killed when they're all driving like grannies - but only out of fear of the penalties.
playgirl
Jul. 8th, 2007 08:05 pm (UTC)
If, as you say, it has a great chance to affect public safety, what's to keep these parasites from lowering the speed limit? I wouldn't put it past them!
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diagon666
Jul. 8th, 2007 07:50 pm (UTC)
I followed this one into the other news link about the "Driver responsibility tax" and, in many ways, agree with that one... If you are a habitually bad driver, it should be made very painful for you to continue being a dangerous driver.

However, being made to pay a ridiculous (or ludicrious, can't decide which one to use) amount for a first time offense is excessive. The additional amounts added on are like the driver responsibility tax, and I've already said my peace on that. All of this in a state where they outlawed radar detectors and will bust you bigtime without you knowing for sure that he actually tagged you, or someone earlier and just hasn't cleared it out.

I agree that the lawyer who sponsored this bill is a tool, who did it just to line his own pockets more, like the states will... and it's mentioned in the 2nd article how NJ has received more than $1 Billion in profit from this... yes, I said profit.

The problem with all of this is the same thing that keeps happening throughout the country. We continually allow our so called lawmakers to allow businesses to decide what laws they should pass.

Whatever happened to "For the people, by the people"?
playgirl
Jul. 8th, 2007 11:41 pm (UTC)
It isn't that we allow our lawmakers to decide what laws should pass or not. The problem lies in the fact that when they take that SILLY oath, "For the people, by the people," it goes in one ear and out the other, and they know that there isn't a damn thing we can do about it. They're all alike, and they're gonna do whatever the hell they wanna do, and the hell with the people!
moon_shine
Jul. 8th, 2007 08:01 pm (UTC)
LOve You!
well I just wanted to stop by and wish you a great day Savanah so I did ;o)
Lots of Love and Lots Of kisses!!! and stop speeding ;) LOL
playgirl
Jul. 8th, 2007 08:46 pm (UTC)
Re: LOve You!
Stop speeding? NEVER!
Wanna ride with me? :o)
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lemmy59
Jul. 8th, 2007 09:02 pm (UTC)
Judas priest... I hate rude drivers as much as the next person, but there are limits to what a reasonable punishment is. The only thing the people of the state can do is vote the son-of-bitches out that introduced this ridulous idea.
playgirl
Jul. 10th, 2007 04:16 pm (UTC)
The only problem with voting these assholes out is that we'd probably vote some other asshole to take his place.

I can see these types of penalties for drivers who drive recklessly while endangering the lives of others, but $1050.00 for forgeting to click on your blinker? Give me a break!
tigron_x
Jul. 8th, 2007 09:13 pm (UTC)
My mom was telling me today that the law was changed in Texas too. All I can recall is that they'll be enforcing the speed limit even if you're going 5 miles over. 3mph over is the "cushion" now. She also said something else, but since I live in FL I didn't really pay much mind to it.

But anyhow... it just goes to show that if you're a US citizen you live in tyranny. That's why I'm working towards getting myself to my natural, native status -- which is an American citizen. There's a difference.

And when I use my car, I'll be acting on my common law right to travel and those statutes won't apply to me as they only apply to those who are US citizens. When I get pulled over and they force me to contract with them, I will sign in protest and duress with all rights reserved. Thus nullifying the agreement.

That's my 2 cents. Where is my penny rebate? :P
playgirl
Jul. 10th, 2007 07:40 pm (UTC)
Rebate? Here's one of my gumballs! :o)
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buddave
Jul. 8th, 2007 10:54 pm (UTC)
I thought Virginia was for lovers. I like a little lovin' now &
then but that type of a system sounds like I would be getting a big
screwing now & then.........
playgirl
Jul. 10th, 2007 04:22 pm (UTC)
With Virginia's new traffic laws, just one ticket would leave me one screw away from financial destitution!
nishar
Jul. 8th, 2007 11:53 pm (UTC)
That guy works as a lawyer at a place speciliazing in traffic violations. It makes sense that he would create a law which would generate a lot of new business for his firm. Especially since the average voter won't even know he is the guy responsible for this. Some one in Virginia needs to raise a lot of hell and start a campaign to boycott this guy's law firm and to boycott any business' the govonor has as well. That way this law will die and other state's will be less likely to add such laws.
playgirl
Jul. 10th, 2007 04:10 pm (UTC)
What I find frightening about people like Aldo is the fact that they create outrageous laws for the sole purpose of lining their pockets, and before they're stopped, they've managed to legally and successfully lined their own pockets with other people’s money.
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mcoletti
Jul. 9th, 2007 04:40 am (UTC)
I live in Virginia ...
... and, natch, I ain't happy about this at all. I fully expect Mr. Aldo will not be seeking re-election because he just became unelectable.

Ya know, it sometimes seems that the government from the Feds down to the municipalities have lost it. And that the normal "feedback" corrective mechanism of voting is broken. It might be torch and pitchfork time.
playgirl
Jul. 10th, 2007 04:04 pm (UTC)
Re: I live in Virginia ...
If I lived in Virginia, I'd be terrified to drive my car. One ticket, and I'd end up so deep in a hole, I'd never be able to dig my way out of it (financially)!

Mr. Aldo appears to be a man of corruption at it's best.

El Paso is going through its share of corruption as there's never before existed in history!
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