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Jonesboro School Massacre, Andrew Golden, Mitchell Johnson

In 1998, Andrew Golden, who was 11 years old at the time, and his 13 year old cousin Mitchell Johnson, entered their school and murdered 4 students, a teacher and wounded 11.

Johnson is now 21 years, and is scheduled to be released from prison today.

His record will be wiped squeaky clean, and will be able to go about his life, as if he never committed a crime. This means he will be able to purchase a firearm if he wishes.

Has justice been served? Thoughts please.

Jonesboro shooter Andrew Golden
scheduled for release today




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ninjaguydan
May. 25th, 2007 09:21 pm (UTC)
Some folks need killin'
well, one can only hope some of the victims families go vigilante and kill his ass, I would. in fact, I'd probably look forward to the day he got out and give a glowiong recommendation to the parole board.


In Brazil (where my grandpa was a police chief), they let out hated criminals all the time so the mob can get at them. Gramps told me they use to let child molesters go just so they can murder them on the outside. where they are easier to get to an no officials can take accountability

Street Justice, motherfucker!
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adudeabides
May. 25th, 2007 10:09 pm (UTC)
Re: Some folks need killin'
That's a tad idiotic. It is a dangerous thing, indeed, for people to take justice into their own hands. Who're you to decide what defines "justice" when it comes to punishing someone for their crimes? If you have qualms with the rehabilitative nature of the justice system, work to reform it.
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adameros
May. 25th, 2007 10:06 pm (UTC)
As I go off on a wild tangent...

Our justice system is based on the concept of rehabilitation. In reality recidivism very high because we incarcerate and do not rehabilitate. Will this person kill again? I don't know. I think we need to look at environmental factors to determine why these children killed in the first place. I also think if they person kills again, the environmental factors of their incarceration will likely be a major contributing factor.

I do not think we should coddle prisoners, but I do think our prison system as it is re-enforces anti-social behavior instead of remolding these people into functioning members of society. Many prisoners, particularly repeat offenders are later found to have mental disorders that could have been treated prior to their run-ins with the law, and society would be better servers by finding out why a person killed/robbed/etc and address those issues instead og just locking them in a cage, as the locking them up out-of-sight/out-of-mind approach just makes things worse for society as a whole.

So back to this person. They have done their time. In theory they have paid for their crime. But now this person is an adult and has only known and hung out with criminals. Their friends and roll models are criminals. They have likely gotten a substandard education. So now we have taken a teen who could have been rehabilitated and returned to society in a functioning manner. Instead he returns poorly educated, which will likely lead to an inability to make a living wage, and in the back of his head all the schemes, scams, plans, ideas all his form cell mates have planted in the back of his head.

I do not expect this to end well.
playgirl
Jun. 1st, 2007 01:42 am (UTC)
Let me see if this gets to you, because I keep trying, and my reply continues to be gobble up by LJ!!

”But now this person is an adult and has only known and hung out with criminals. Their friends and roll models are criminals.”

I really can’t see that as you do. The criminals and friends this guy hung out with, while incarcerated, were mere pussy cats compared to this guy. There just wasn’t anything negative they could have instilled in him, because he was already a heartless, vicious mass killer. I feel it was the criminals that had to be leery of picking up his evilness.

I’m sure that most of those criminals were there for armed robberies, or crimes of passion. This guy was there because he murdered 4 little kids, an adult, and seriously wounded 11 more children. You just can’t get any more evil than that. Yes, environment sometimes has much to do with these things, but not that often. There are millions upon millions of kids who have had to live in the middle of the fire, but they chose never to get burnt. I’m pretty sure that this guy was brought up with loving parents who tried to do the best they could, as most parents do, but they had the misfortune of having a son who was as evil as they come from the start. A child who has a conscious, and a loving caring heart, would never even think of doing the things this coward did. I honest to God believe that if this boy had had the best form of an education in prison; it would have been a waste of money. He didn’t even deserve to be rehabilitated, much less be freed in a matter of just a few years. Lord, how many months did he actually pay for by obliterating 5 human beings from the face of the earth, and wounding 11 more, which we have no idea to what extent those injuries went.

I do agree with you on the first part. Some prisoners, even those who have murdered, should not be locked away forever, without an effort of rehabilitating them.

I don’t expect this to end well, either, because the system has freed two little demons (who will definitely purchase guns) that should have rotted in their cells until they died.

I don’t believe in the death penalty, but I do believe in life imprisonment, without the possibility of parole.
fourcorners
May. 25th, 2007 10:14 pm (UTC)
Maybe justice is served, if he no longer is allowed to possess his index 'trigger' fingers.

How can 5 second-degree murders (I'm guessing they're second because I don't think he was gunning for those people specifically) and 11 attempted murders only net you 10 years in prison? Obviously, it's morally murky because he's a frikkin' kid, but I think something like this proves that laws protecting teenagers should no longer apply.

Kids these days are far more knowledgeable now than when we were their age, and I believe they're far less innocent too. It does society no good to give them these slaps on the wrist for heinous, ridiculous acts of violence.

If you're registered as a sex offender for life for screwing an underage person, then it only makes sense that you have to register as a violent criminal for life for murdering 4 underage people.

What am I saying? This is America. We don't know what decency is. We're far more perturbed by sex acts than violent ones.
playgirl
May. 31st, 2007 03:22 am (UTC)
I believe the laws have changed, at least I hope so, where kids are tried as adults when they commit horrific crime.

I can't even begin to imagine how the families of the victims feel, and I'm almost sure that these guys will eventually murder someone else before they die.
tomcatshanger
May. 25th, 2007 10:44 pm (UTC)
Re: Some folks need killin'
It's a warm fuzzy feeling ain't it?

There is only one way to make sure murderers don't murder again.

And there is zero doubt this guy did it. So why in the world shouldn't we execute him, instead of letting him out of prison?
playgirl
May. 31st, 2007 03:16 am (UTC)
Re: Some folks need killin'
I am totally against the death penalty, because I feel there are better alternatives to beasts like these two, and that's to rot in prison for the rest of their lives. Death is just to easy, and time spent in a tiny cell, is living in hell for a very long time.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but haven't the laws changed, where minors who commit haneous crimes are now tried as adults? I hope I'm right.
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prader
May. 26th, 2007 02:32 am (UTC)
Technically, there's no way for justice to be served unless we could come up with a way to execute him... five times. And wound him 11 times which wouldn't be nearly as difficult.

On the other hand, as difficult as this is to say having children of my own, Mercy does have a place and our legal system appears to have been rather merciful in this place.
prader
May. 26th, 2007 02:35 am (UTC)
Er... case. Sorry, watching my son play his video game.
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nishar
May. 26th, 2007 03:11 am (UTC)
They should have tried them as adults and then hung them from a tall tree a few weeks later. I seriously hope some one shoots that rat in the head in the next few weeks.
playgirl
Jun. 1st, 2007 12:53 am (UTC)
Nah, that's too good for them. Let them live to be 100 while constantly looking over their shoulder in terror.
photosexual
May. 26th, 2007 04:55 am (UTC)
I might be weird. (well, ok, I know I'm weird...) but if he's done his time fairly (7 or 8 years all told) he is at least entitled to a second chance.

Then again, As a 13 year old locked up with no-gooders for 8 years, it's not likely that he will be reformed or have the determination or simple social skills to lead an un-troubled life, since his exposure in the joint probably just made him worse or validated all of his evil thoughts and evil doings.

So I'm on the fence. One hand says he's free to go and see if he can make a decent life, (and if not, he'll kill again before he's caught or killed himself) and the other hand says that he's going to be as bad, if not worse than when he went in and is an immediate danger to society, but cannot be penalized until he (see above) kills again which means justice will probably be served the second time around, but the tragedy is, it'll take a second time for someone to die before anyone really does anything about it.

But since 99% of his information leading up to his release is public record or obtainable via the freedom of information act, he's probably just gonna get killed by anyone who wants him dead before he gets far at all.

Just sayin'...

playgirl
May. 31st, 2007 04:13 am (UTC)
LJ keeps gobbling up my reply to you!! :o(
I am having a very hard time replying to you, because LJ keeps gobbling up what I've tried to send!

Let me try again!

I just can't see how his exposure in the pen could possibly make him worse. How much worse could he have gotten when he murdered 5 people and wounded 11? I feel the moment he's freed, he will continue to be a most dangerous man to society.

A good kid, with a good heart, could never do what this guy did, along with his cousin, no matter how enraged he became.

I believe these guys were already bad while they were still in the womb. Too bad they weren't miscarried back then, so his little victims wouldn't have lost their lives in such a cowardly way, and the victims families live destroyed forever.

Thanks for "just sayin'..., because I always enjoy reading your view points! :o)
monkeypooshoes
May. 26th, 2007 09:23 am (UTC)
tricky one, playgirl, but 11 years old? that's just a baby!
playgirl
May. 31st, 2007 03:31 am (UTC)
Yes it's a tricky one, but look as all the innocent lives this babies destroyed! :o(
uglyface2
May. 26th, 2007 03:41 pm (UTC)
Crime and Punishment, Junior Edition. This is something that needs to be reformed, and badly.

How about this: for severe crimes that would ordinarily garner a life sentence (or death), a child would be sentenced to life in prison with review pending at age 21. If the prisoner shows signs of having been properly rehabilitated, they could then be released. If that child has grown into a nightmare as an adult, they are then moved to an adult facility to spend the rest of their lives behind bars.

It seems to be a decent balance between justice and temperance, at least in my eyes. The prisoner is given a strong incentive to change, society is given protection if they do not, and the victims are given a better shot at justice than under the current system.

Thoughts?
playgirl
May. 31st, 2007 04:26 am (UTC)
Why do I keep thinking that it's already been reformed by having child killers tried as adults?

I don't find it a decent balance at all, because I feel the KID who was capable of committing a horrible crime to begin with, and do it again, no matter if he behaved like an angel or not in prison. Besides, why should he be given the right to live in freedom and live a nice little life, when he destroyed so many?

Here's a silly example: I have oodles of cats, and I feed them constantly where their bellies are ready to pop, but once they got a taste of killing and eating birds, they continue to do so non stop. I feel these bad seed kids are the same. Once they have killed a human being, they will surely kill again, before it's all over.
ayoub
May. 26th, 2007 10:01 pm (UTC)
That really depends on what he learnt while locked up...

I have a feeling, though, that all he did learn was more violence.

In which case, allowing him to buy a gun, should he wish to, is not wise.

As for justice? Well... Justice died a long time ago.
playgirl
May. 30th, 2007 11:13 pm (UTC)
After having murdered in cold blood so many innocent people, and injuring 11 more, I feel it's impossible for these two to have learned more violence while they were incarcerated.

As for justice, I feel you're right, it did die a long time ago.
tigron_x
May. 26th, 2007 10:31 pm (UTC)
Justice has been served. A judgment was passed and it was fullfilled. Also, he will live the rest of his adult life with the burden of his actions. And, even though he doesn't have to check in with any authority, he should still be monitored by authorities.
playgirl
May. 30th, 2007 07:17 pm (UTC)
Bad Seeds from birth
I look at it this way, once a fox kills and gets a taste of chicken blood, that fox will kill chickens for the rest of its life.

He, nor the other guy will never have to live with the burden of their actions, because they never had respect for life, and they never will. They are what I call Bad Seeds from birth.
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moon_shine
May. 28th, 2007 06:16 pm (UTC)
Sunshine I was just dropping by to wish you a Fun and safe Memorial Day!!!
Love you sweetie!!

And you are right it never makes any scents to me why they let guys like this out?
Their victims never get to come back to life.
playgirl
May. 30th, 2007 07:20 pm (UTC)
How sad that their victim's lives were cut so short, and these assholes will live freely to enjoy life.

I feel so sorry for the victims families!
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