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Four women were fired for gossiping about the town administrator and another employee having an affair which was not true. Now they're suing to get their jobs back.

I personally know how damaging gossip can be. I once made an application with the Texas Employment Commission. I took the required examination and passed it, and got the job for a temporary position which lasted three months.

I had 3 high school girlfriends at that time, who I considered to be good friends. I later found out that they had been gossiping about me by saying that I had gotten the job because I had slept with the man who had hired me. This was not true, and no words can convey how deeply their gossip hurt me. It took me a very long time to get over it. One day, one of them called me on the phone apologizing. It seems she had gone to the priest and confessed what she had done, and he told her that the only way God would forgive her was if she asked me personally to forgive her. I forgave her, but I never again had anything to do with the Three Black Widow Spiders.

I have no proof, but I seriously suspect my boss and I are being gossiped about at work, and if they are, it isn't true.

So, my answer to my own question is, yes, the town administrator was right in firing those gossiping women.

Do you feel it was right to fire these four women or not? Why?




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adameros
May. 23rd, 2007 04:58 pm (UTC)
I think gossiping sucks, but is unavoidable. It's like people or genetically predisposed to talk about other people. Just look at all the tabloids, or even in legitimate papers, all the society pages, or all the rumors in the political section of the paper.

Should the women be fired? I think that depends on the damage done. I do think they should be called to the carpet, infront of all their coworkers, and berated for their actions.

Usually risk of embarrassment is enough to curb minor actions as gabbing about other people.

If they are repeat offenders, then fire them.
playgirl
May. 23rd, 2007 06:54 pm (UTC)
Yes it its, but I was surprised to find that these four women who were fired were too old, and should have known better than to spread vicious rumors. They have the kind of face I yearn to slap around with a feather! :o)

I don't know if the woman is married, but the administrator is married, and that type of gossip could have destroyed the marriage.
neo_prodigy
May. 23rd, 2007 06:01 pm (UTC)
oh hell yes!
hell yeah that town administrator was right for giving those bitches their walking papers and i applaud him for taking action.

ignoring the moral ramifications of these harpies' actions, let's look at the logistics.

first of all what they committed was slander. the allegations weren't true at all. otherwise it might've been a different story. these damaged the ta and the woman's reputation and last i checked, the laws frown upon slander.

second of all they undermined the ta's authority. not only did they disrupt a work environment with lies, as a boss it's hard to command respect and cooperation from your employees when all of your dirty laundry is out in the street. dirty laundry that wasn't even yours to begin with.

even if he was having an affair, what business was it of theirs? was their paychecks not being signed? was their job being affected in any way? no. these were some nosy hoes who had nothing better to do with their time but stir up some shit.

see this is exactly how bitches get got. talking shit and sticking their nose where it doesn't belong.

now let's look at what could've happened here. say that the ta couldn't prove the allegations were false. his wife could've left him, taken the kids and moved in with her mother. the ta could've easily have been fired from his job over the scandal. now he's lost his family, his means of supporting himself, and his reputation over something he didn't even do. so of course he may be sad, or worst yet pissed and looking for payback. and when he shows up at the old job with a 12-gage, cnn is going to be wondering how a massacre like this could've transpired.

and these bitches have the audacity to sue to get their jobs back?

i remember working at this crappy job and a couple of co-workers were bad-mouthing the manager. i didn't say anything because i didn't want to deal with the fallout of any drama. nevertheless, one of the co-workers lied and said that i was badmouthing the manager and major drama ensued. my only crime of course was being scheduled to work with the gossips. i couldn't get the hell out of there fast enough.

there's a guy at one of my jobs that i work at now and he talks so much shit about everyone and when they come around, mum is the word. sunday he began trashing the supervisor's wife and at that point i walked away. i warned him that people have been shot for less.

that's like your situation. that is royally fucked up that you've had to go through that, with friends no less. i bet i know what happened. these jealous bitches are thinking because you're a very beautiful woman, of course you had to have slept your way to the top. because you couldn't have possibly worked hard to get where you're at by your own skills and merits. that's bullshit.

if you're being gossiped about now at your present job, don't worry about it if nothing has been brought to your attention. people are going to talk. let them. just work hard and be the best woman you know to be. you know the truth and that's all that matters and if and when a situation is brought to your attention, handle it accordingly.

the moral of the story here, never say anything behind a person's back that you're not willing to say to their face because it's a good chance it'll get back to them anyway.
playgirl
May. 23rd, 2007 07:54 pm (UTC)
Re: oh hell yes!
For all the reasons you stated, I'm also in agreement that those women were fired.

It's impossible to avoid being gossiped about, but it should be forbidden in the work force, because it can be very dangerous.

The gossip among ex-girlfriends was as vicious as possible, and not only did they gossip about me, but my brothers and dad, too. At first I was crushed, then rage engulfed me to the point that I came close to getting very sick. The way I survived these terrible feelings for them, was to spew all my hatred in a poem I wrote.

It is true that sticks and stones might break your bones, but hurtful words could possibly kill you.

At work, I'm sure there's lots of gossip, but I don't care to know what it is at all.

Love you Sweety Pie!
moon_shine
May. 23rd, 2007 06:55 pm (UTC)
Yes! If they where doing what he said then I think he was right
Gossiping is bad and it almost destroyed my life.
Some people need to get a life and take care of there own problems first.

You know Sunshine I feel a little dizzy maybe I can
get that Mouth to mouth now! =o) Wink Wink
Love you sweetie
playgirl
May. 23rd, 2007 08:52 pm (UTC)
I think so, too Sweey Pie!

So, are you ready to pass out on me? This could become a fun habit! ;o)
moon_shine
May. 23rd, 2007 11:22 pm (UTC)
you know Sunshine if all it takes is for me to pass out to get you hot! I can kink the O2 hose any time.=o))))
you know I am really starting to get excited here! a nipple for your thought I meant a Penny,;o)Wink Wink
donchep
May. 23rd, 2007 06:57 pm (UTC)
If you're asking if it's right to gossip, I'll answer no. Whether you can legslly fire someone in a civil service position for being gossipy is probably debatable.
I don't claim to know the law that well but slander was mentioned and I think slander can only be proven in court. And the burden of proof goes to the person being slandered to prove that the claims are false.
I'm sure there is someone here in law who might know this.
Also while you can probably have someone fired for spreading damaging lies about you if this was the case, I don't think you can or should be allowed to fire someone for being critical of you unless you own a business (in which case you don't need reasons)

I think it all depends on the individual case and what factors into having someone fired.


playgirl
May. 24th, 2007 03:30 am (UTC)
I would much rather be criticized, than have people gossip about me. Perhaps I really don’t know the definition of these to words.


I heard these women on Fox News this morning, and they still continued to unkind things about the woman, saying she had been promoted, when they themselves had already been working there for years. They also said that the woman was paid more. I believe these women were disgruntled employees, and they themselves started the ugly rumors about an on going affair which was untrue. They all looked to be quite old women, which surprised me, because by that age, I would have thought they would have matured.

Yes, there is a LJ friend who knows the law, and hopefully he’ll see this so he can give us his views.
trwheaton
May. 23rd, 2007 07:52 pm (UTC)
I agree, they got what was coming to them. And I empathize with you, dear--I am finding out as we speak how powerful and hurtful gossip is. Some people seem to have nothing better to do than interfere and ruin other people's lives with their lying tongues...but they forget, Karma can be a b****!
playgirl
May. 24th, 2007 10:55 pm (UTC)
I wonder how many lives have been lost because of hurtful gossip? My guess is too many.

If you have already experienced gossip, I'm so sorry, because I personally know how damaging it can be. Not only is your frame of mind affected, but your health, also.

I hope you're right about Karma!
uglyface2
May. 23rd, 2007 09:54 pm (UTC)
Really depends on the extent and the severity of the gossip. Were they spilling confidential information? Making comments that bordered on slander? Causing a hostile work environment? Without the facts, I can't make a sound judgement.
playgirl
May. 24th, 2007 10:58 pm (UTC)
It must have been pretty serious, for them to get fired.

I saw them on the news, and they had the faces of gossips.
nishar
May. 25th, 2007 02:42 am (UTC)
I would have fired those three old bitties too. And I don't care if they are 18. In my eyes that kind of stuff is for kids or old people.
playgirl
May. 25th, 2007 01:33 pm (UTC)
The tongue is deadlier than the sword, and these women's gossip could have destroyed many lives. Even if their gossip was true, which it wasn't, they should have still kept their mouths shut.
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