?

Log in

No account? Create an account

Previous Entry | Next Entry

How can people be so cruel?

Tyrone Williams of Schenectady, N.Y., unhooked his cab and abandoned the semitrailer with more than 100 men, women and children in it.
The deadliest smuggling schemes in U.S. history

Comments

( 13 comments — Leave a comment )
scotteiland
May. 15th, 2003 05:49 pm (UTC)
it's a truly sad story and more horrible than the media is reporting.

Unfortunately, America is fast becoming desensitized.

My suggestion for a solution: put the MILITARY on the border and make them enforce them. Then people-brokers like Tyrone Williams won't ever hurt anyone again.

Unfortunately, this idea for some reason upsets too much of the hispanic community. Why, i have no idea.
pggmilltn
May. 15th, 2003 06:10 pm (UTC)
Even assuming that would bring to an end smugglers going accross unguarded sections of the boarder, this was a man who drove a simi through a US customs checkpoint. The solution would be to find ways to help bring more jobs to Mexico and to select mexican migrants without greatly reducing the number of jobs in the United States. I believe this can be done.
(Deleted comment)
ceciley
May. 16th, 2003 02:39 pm (UTC)
Re: Sad but true
and why not exactly?
america is a country made entirely of migrants (except of course for the disgracefully small and marginalised population of native americans).

immagration did not cause 9/11, forgein policy did. america must accept that terrorism as a phenomenon may never go away, but if it is to contained, this administartion and any sucessive american goverments must realise that people, even if they are poor and black and not on TV have lives and loves and griefs. and that if immagration to is be controlled, we as the west must work for peace and justice in every country, not just the ones that have oil, or when we need to win an election. if you check the facts, you will find we all are accesories to a global crime-of undermining what we pretend to stand for; eg democracy and peace and equality.

if just a fraction of the money spent on this illegal war had been spent on making the world a better place, for example providing fresh water for the millions of children who die each year for want of it, then these ppl would not have to risk there lives crossing some increasingly obsessivly controlled border in search of basics.

in chasing this war, Bush has provided the best propaganda to join terrorism that osama, whereever he is, hoped for.
america is not an island, disconected from the world around it. it cant cut itsself off-however hard it tries- from global issues such as immagration, global warming, or terrorism. but as long as it tries to, it will remain a target. sad but true.

(Deleted comment)
ceciley
May. 17th, 2003 01:11 pm (UTC)
Re: Sad but true
''America stands for peace, unity, and is a Democratic Republic, rightfully so.''

no-one was suggesting that wasnt right. still, you might want to have a look at this lil quiz especially made for people like you.

1) Which country rejected the order of the International Court of Justice (ICJ) to terminate its "unlawful use of force" against Nicaragua in 1986, and then vetoed a UN Security Council resolution calling on all states to observe international law?
-the USA.

2)Which country has provided approximately $100 billion in aid to a country [Israel] which has maintained a 34-year occupation of land in defiance of international law?
-the USA

3)Which country has provided approximately $100 billion in aid to a country [Israel] which has maintained a 34-year occupation of land in defiance of international law?
-the USA.

now, at this point the quiz has potential to get alittle repetitive, so i'll just run through some extra points very quickly, for instance how the USA is the only country in the world aside from somalia not to have signed the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child, or how it your country has handed over aprox. $100 billion of aid to israel who have maintained a 34 year occupation in definace of international law.Have to you already forgotten the 500 CHILDREN killed each year in palestine by the israeli army? their parents havent.

maybe YOU should read some of MY eariler posts in THIS journal to get an idea of what im about-check the facts on why bush is an unelected dictator, i wrote them out nice and easy with no bigs words for deluded people like you to understand.i think thats april 7th entry.

maybe if america and its corporations and the west and its corporations stopped exploiting the 3rd world maybe they wouldnt need our aid? Israel is a perfect empirical model of why cracking down on terrorism doesnt work-do you really think people are inherently, biblically evil? or just driven to do what circumstances demand in a world turned upside down...

insulting my typing skills insnt really that offensive given you ''elected'' an leader who is...erm...not the sharpest tool in box...also, lets remeber, please, that Albert Einstein was dsylexic, and he paved the way to building the atom bomb that your goverment loves so much.
ceciley
May. 17th, 2003 01:52 pm (UTC)
Re: Sad but true
ah, sorry, 2 and 3 should have read:
2)Which country refuses to hand over a variety of indicted war criminals, terrorists and mass murderers - all residing within its borders - to Cuba,
Venezuela and Haiti?
-USA
3)Which country's illegal bombing of Libya in 1986 was described by the UN Legal Committee as a "classic case" of terrorism?
-USA

that'll teach me to talk and type at the same time.

p.s. playgirl-ur dogs are gorgeous! just figured i'd say.
playgirl
May. 18th, 2003 04:30 pm (UTC)
Ohhh ceciley
Thank you for complimenting my babies. They are wildly wagging their tail and are grinning from ear to floppy ear!
ARF ARF! That means lots of hugs from Jewely and Mickey!
(Deleted comment)
ceciley
May. 21st, 2003 08:53 am (UTC)
Re: Sad but true
Well, in the name of education i'll briefly inform you of the facts of the Nicaragua case, (and since there is really nothing to debate, as Reagan was clearly in the wrong) i'll move on quickly afterwards.
In the 1970s a brutal dictator Somoza controled Nicaragua. He was dispelled in a popular uprising headed by a group called the Sandinistas, who in 1979 took control and installed a progressive/liberal goverment. Reagan, with his rather shaky imbecilic finger over the nuclear button felt american interests were at stake & proceeded to fund a terrorist organisation (im not even gonna comment-i'll leave that to GWBush) to plant bombs in nicaraguan cities and generally kill lots of civilians, because i guess its all very threatening to have a country so nearby to you advocating a fair deal for all, and gay rights and terrible terrible things like that. but i digress. So nicargagua went to the UN, who passed a resolution calling on Reagan to stop his illegal terrorist activities. calls which he promptly, err, ignored.
To fund his terrorists, he sold arms illegally to Iran, and continued to ignore calls from the international community to quit acting like a rogue state.
the Sandinistas, being such a very hardline dictatoriship, held an election in 1990 and were voted out by the nicaraguan poplace who were sick of american bombs exploding in their towns, and wanted peace and social injustice rather than justice and gureilla warfare.
just filling you in on the facts.

Now, israel & palestine. im guessing you got cut off in the middle, so i'll just quickly point out some of what i view as non-accurate and wait in interest for Part 2.
Firstly, the comment that 'Islam is, and always has, been spread by the sword'. That might be true, at least in the past tense, to a certain extent. But since moses would be detained today on War Crimes charges, i hardly think christainity has a right to lecture. check out Moses command to 'kill and rape' Numbers, 31:13-18. Of course, its not fair to apply modern standards to moses, the command was standard for his time. but then why is it ok to apply modern standards to Islam, or for that matter, us as the general non-religious public (think persecution of homosexuals, the murder of doctors who perform abortion...)?
im not gonna debate those issues with you now,(reading ur journal we have startlingly differnt views) so i'll try to stick to the israel/palestine war/peace & immigration discussion.
still, i think i've made the points i wanted to Re:ur above post. waiting with anticipation fot part 2....
demonicanevil
May. 23rd, 2003 09:20 pm (UTC)
A serious question
Just where the fuck are you from anyway? Are you even American? And if not, what the fuck right do YOU have for saying ANYTHING about this fucking country??? Honestly, I don't know why you even bother commenting on things.
ceciley
May. 24th, 2003 12:32 am (UTC)
Re: A serious question
No, im not american. please dont label me anti-american, im anti alot of things but not america.
i comment because when innocent people are dying by american (and british-thats me) made bombs, everyone should have an opinon. surely playgirl writes such controversial entries to spark discussion (apart obviously, from believing in what she writes-which i have no problem with)& whats the point of discussion without disagreeing sides?
maybe if you could quash my argument more convincingly than by insulting me, i would take your opinons more seriously. theres a thought.
demonicanevil
May. 24th, 2003 02:19 pm (UTC)
Actually
I'm just tired of reading your bullshit, but at least I have the freedom to read it or ignore it, unlike the people that are in the countries America is striving to help and protect.

At this point, I don't give a shit WHY we went over to Iraq. It's enough to know that those people now have the ABILITY to have an opinion, be it a cheer or a jeer, unlike when Sadam was in power.

And had you read my question, I asked if you were American. I also asked your nationality, in the case that you were not American. I didn't HAVE to ask if you were anti-American because I could read that in your blathering speaches.
ceciley
May. 29th, 2003 04:00 am (UTC)
Re: Actually what now?
if the above's ''striving to protect'' then i dread to think what you consider attacking...oh, i forgot, your the only country to have ever used the A-bomb...
yes, they are allowed to have an opinon. lets just hope they dont make Nicaraguas mistake and use their opinon to elected someone Bush does like. then we'll talk about their opinons.
im NOT anti-american, im anti-bush. that was just a preemptive denial of something i knew you'd claim. actually, i feel kinda sorry for you. all i have to do is type out facts; the truth; no imagination involved there. but it must be alot harder for you, and you cant go on saying The World Is Flat indefinately, you know.
anyway, i was having a disscusion with jennierocket, who although she is 6 years younger than you manages to at least minimise the insults. have a gold star.
pggmilltn
May. 16th, 2003 02:43 pm (UTC)
Re: Sad but true
I was under the impression most of the terrorists either entered directly through the US or indirectly through Canada with most murders in the US being committed by Americans. Certain we arn't about to seal off our boarder with Canada by force or ban Americans from traveling in America.
padget
May. 20th, 2003 10:33 am (UTC)
a penny for your delusions..
some people are just sick minded and think only of themselves. It is rather sad that the morality displayed in America has declined so over the past 100 years. Love for life, be it human or animal, should be something inherent in all people but far too many are concerned with the self to think of others.
( 13 comments — Leave a comment )

Latest Month

May 2015
S M T W T F S
     12
3456789
10111213141516
17181920212223
24252627282930
31      

Tags

Powered by LiveJournal.com