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Beheadings On My Mind

Beheadings On My Mind



I once mentioned that I have a web site with links of videos of the beheadings, (and again, I will not show you that link) and watched the gruesome beheadings of
Nicolas Berg, Paul Johnson, Eugene Armstrong , and Kim Sun Il, which was especially horrific.

I had always assumed that they had been instantly decapitated by a QUICK swish of a sword, but was shocked to see that they were beheaded with a TINY knife which was used to SLOWLY (so the victim would know EXACTLY what was happening to him) slice across their neck.

Today, I looked up BEHEADINGS in Youtube, and found videos with beheadings.

If you would like to take a look, this is the link:

YouTube BEHEADINGS

I'm seriously beginning to speculate if I was Mary Stuart, Queen of Scots, in my other life?!

Why is it that these executioners choose to torture them so, through decapitation, instead of just shooting the prisoner before a firing squad?

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mckavian
Sep. 14th, 2006 09:28 pm (UTC)
Probably for the horror/shock affect of the viewers as well as to let the poor bastard know what's going on. Personally, I think we ought to round up all of these sick, sadistic fuckers and I'll pay the cost of the bullets used. BTW: People on both sides, not just the islamic fundies. Anyone who gets kicks from this sort of thing is a cancer in our world that needs to be purged.
playgirl
Sep. 14th, 2006 10:06 pm (UTC)
cry for mercy
Let's not waste our precious, expensive bullets on them. I think an inexpensive rope from the 2nd hand store would suffice!

Don't these people have nightmares by the gruesome acts of violence they perform?

I can't even begin to imagine the horror the victim feels while they behead him. The one I found most disturbing of all, was the beheading of Kim Sun II. He continued to cry for mercy, to the very end, and still he moaned terribly when his head had already been severed! My God!

By and by, I'm making icons, with you in mind. When I put them up, I'll let you know, so you can pick one of them and tell me what to write on it. Only 2 words, so they will fit. If you find you don't like it, it will not hurt my feelings at all!
Hugs Sweet Stuff!
mckavian
Sep. 15th, 2006 12:05 am (UTC)
Re: cry for mercy
I think an inexpensive rope from the 2nd hand store would suffice!
I agree, but I do not want to become them in order to fight them.

Don't these people have nightmares by the gruesome acts of violence they perform?
No, they do not. They have learned to de-humanise and demonize others to the point where they have no feelings about it. That and they know they are doing what their god wants them to. Too bad that I know a muslin fellow who actually *knows* the koran and has cursed these people worse than you ever will.

I have stopped watching these videos. I already have lurid dreams, I do not need to get my id any more ammunition to mess with my dreaming self. I have watched too many of these types of these videos. All of the Faces of Death videos, et al. When you become callous to them then you start to lose your humanity. I am a shitty enough person as is, I do not need to make myself even worse.

I'm making icons, with you in mind
I am flattered. Though...I have to wonder what you are thinking of. I will find out soon enough, I am sure. When I see them, I am sure the two word maximum will come to mind.
playgirl
Sep. 15th, 2006 01:05 am (UTC)
Re: cry for mercy
I have watch all the Faces of Death videos, also. The one that stands most vividly in my mind are two of them. The one where that guy lands in the huge pond full of alligators, and they all rush to him and eat him alive. The other one this guy is toaste in the electric chair, and his eyes dribble down from their sockets, onto his chest. I feel this is just as barbaric as those who behead people.

I feel differently than you do, and am always looking for this type of material to watch, because these types of videos show cruelty and viciousness at it worse by we humans. It is amazing how some have no respect for life, and commit such vile acts without blinking and eyelid.
mckavian
Sep. 15th, 2006 01:19 am (UTC)
Re: cry for mercy
The other one this guy is toaste in the electric chair, and his eyes dribble down from their sockets
Actually, that is the fluid inside the eye bursting, not the eye itself. But lets not be anal about the petty details, shall we?

It is amazing how some have no respect for life, and commit such vile acts without blinking and eyelid.
Yes, it is amazing, indeed. I have read up on lots of serial murderers (My favorite is still Ed Gein), criminals, war crimes, etc, etc, etc. I still enjoy the maccob and morbid, but not so much any more. I used to be military police, I have had enough IRL experiences to satisfy most of these desires. perhaps I no longer enjoy them because I am already disgusted with humans in general and people like these in particular.

It's not really much of a wonder why my best-est friends are my cats.
mckavian
Sep. 15th, 2006 01:22 am (UTC)
Re: cry for mercy
Oh, and this link sums up my thoughts pretty damn well: http://www.suburbanjungle.com/d/20011231.html
see_dog
Sep. 14th, 2006 10:27 pm (UTC)
Because being slowly beheaded is potentially the worst thing that can happen to someone.
en_no_gyoja
Sep. 14th, 2006 10:43 pm (UTC)
Given the choice, I'd probably prefer that to being mauled by a grizzly bear.

Not that it's much of a choice, really...
see_dog
Sep. 15th, 2006 01:33 am (UTC)
That would be pretty rough call. Either way...it's a choice that most people...more than likely...will never have to make :P
playgirl
Sep. 15th, 2006 03:05 pm (UTC)
GRIZZLY bears
Your right about being mauled by a grizzly bear. I suppose that's why they're called GRIZZLY bears, huh?!

Being Catholic, now I realize what is meant when one prays for a good and happy death! :o)
playgirl
Sep. 15th, 2006 01:07 am (UTC)
Frying
Frying in the electric chair is just as horrible!
see_dog
Sep. 15th, 2006 01:35 am (UTC)
Re: Frying
hmmm.....what about the ancient viking tradition to prove how tough you are. To start off they would disembowel you then tie your hanging organs to a tree. You would then continue to walk around the tree until you died. If you walked around until you took your heart with the remainder of your organs you were considerred to be a tough warrior. Ahhh the crazy shit people did back then.
jaerven
Sep. 15th, 2006 09:33 am (UTC)
I think that burning alive is not too much fun - especially if you don't pass out from the smoke.
see_dog
Sep. 16th, 2006 01:48 am (UTC)
I don't think that it's humanly possible to not pass out from that much smoke.
playgirl
Sep. 15th, 2006 03:20 pm (UTC)
guillotine
If I had to die by decapitation, I'd much prefer death by guillotine.
see_dog
Sep. 16th, 2006 01:51 am (UTC)
Re: guillotine
Guillotine hey. Those things were a truly aweful device. Killed sooo many people.
scottj32
Sep. 14th, 2006 10:36 pm (UTC)
You thought it was one quick slash? Oh jeez.

Nope! They grind that butter knife slowly in-out-in-out-in-out... they got to use some muscle to do it.

Pretty gruesome, I know.
playgirl
Sep. 15th, 2006 12:43 am (UTC)
beyond gruesome
Yes I did, until I saw the videos, which went beyond gruesome when they held out the head for the camera and placed it on that pillow!
en_no_gyoja
Sep. 14th, 2006 10:41 pm (UTC)
It's skeerier.

They are making movies here, after all. And the Effa-Bee-Eye said there was no such thing as "snuff films"!
daddy
Sep. 14th, 2006 11:34 pm (UTC)
It is truly hard to explain the mindset of the Islamo-facists. I spent a bit of time in the middle east back in the 70's and was able to talk to a few of them and get an idea of their beliefs. The one thing that was so very evident was that Life is not precious to them. Its something they must endure in order to get to be with Allah. Their family name or the honor of that family is more important than life. If they feel a family member has disgraced the family in front of others, they will kill that family member to restore honor to the family.
The fanatics believe that if they martyr themselves by destroying infidels, they will be blessed in heaven by being given 72 virgins to serve them through eternity. (I have always wondered what the women get)
Life is very cheap, its the afterlife that is important.

The beheading is nothing to them, they make the innocents suffer as much as they can, and then the showing the videos because they know we in the west cherish life, and are not used to seeing heads being sawed off. Thats whay they call it terrorism. Hell the French used the guillitine, which was quick and painless cause they felt it was humane. In the US they will clean the injection site on an execution, heaven forbid the person gets an infection before he dies.... Go figure
playgirl
Sep. 15th, 2006 09:39 pm (UTC)
family name or the honor of that family
Their family name or the honor of that family is more important than life.
You are so right about that. I recently saw this on TV which shocked me, and which proves what you stated:

Muslim parents kill daughter for she was in love with Italian
mindme
Sep. 15th, 2006 12:03 am (UTC)
Some appear like they've been drugged beforehand. The Korean guy, for example, seemed drugged. I guess they're trying to be kind in those instances.

Christians used to do that to Muslims way back. I sure hope it doesn't take another thousand years to bring them up to speed.

Then again there sure are people who call themselves Christian who feel dragging a black man chained to their pickup is part of god's plan. You know, they're just mud people, children of the devil. And when Satan is alive and well in the American government, blowing up a daycare center located in an FBI office isn't really all that bad to some who think they're doing god's work.
playgirl
Sep. 15th, 2006 12:41 am (UTC)
I honestly believe they are demons.
Is it possible that they are drugged from sheer terror? I don't believe they have an ounce of kindness in them, ever.

Is it possible for a person to still realize what has happened to him, AFTER he's been decapitated? Just curious. It sure seem to be the case with the Korean guy. This is why I found it especially gruesome, even more so than I did the others. I'll never forget his face and his plea for mercy.

All religious fanatics are, and have been since the beginning of time, the worlds most dangerous enemy. I honestly believe they are demons.
mindme
Sep. 15th, 2006 12:57 am (UTC)
Re: I honestly believe they are demons.
I think I've read that in theory one should have perception for about 20 or 30 second after decapitation.

Indeed people who hate will use any local faith to buttress their acts. After any disaster people turn up in a priest outfit to scam people.

inspectorjury
Sep. 15th, 2006 12:24 am (UTC)
I have no interest in seeing those horrific films. But as to why that's simple. It is to instill terror and horror in those who watch them. The more fear they can instill in others the better they like it.
playgirl
Sep. 15th, 2006 12:50 am (UTC)
REAL LIFE horror
Yes, they are the personification of REAL LIFE horror and gruesomeness, and yes, that's why they kill them in this manner, to instill fear.

I shouldn't have seen them, but I had to.

inspectorjury
Sep. 15th, 2006 11:32 am (UTC)
Re: REAL LIFE horror
No you shouldn't have seen them I understand that your personality is such that you couldn't resist the need to know. But as for me my plan for the terrorist is simple. I plan to ignore them to death. I will go on with my life as normally as I can and I shall feel no fear. Thus I have conquered them not the other way around.
photosexual
Sep. 15th, 2006 04:57 am (UTC)
People are shot every day. Beheadings happen only for special occasions. It's a very personal and barbaric way to kill someone. Plenty of glitz for the media to sensationalize, and it makes the beheader a 'monster' or an 'animal' or whatever society calls them to feel comfortable in their group for support.

Beheadings aren't done in america, except for freak accidents and the mentally ill. A country overseas that beheads people there as much as we shoot them over here decides to show us how it is. There is horror and suffering (even if it is apparently brief) in a beheading. There appears to be no suffering from a well-placed gunshot wound.

If you wanted to horrify and piss off someone, and send them a message that you're not fucking around, you lop off their head. Slowly. It tends to get their attention.


playgirl
Sep. 15th, 2006 03:28 pm (UTC)
charging big bucks
When I first saw these videos of the beheadings, it was free. Unbelieveably, they are now charging big bucks to see them.

It's hard to believe that there are some people who profit monetarily, by someone else’s death.

The videos on YouTube are free.
jaerven
Sep. 15th, 2006 09:35 am (UTC)
What is interesting to me is that I've read some place that executioners in the middle ages were supposed to keep their tools very sharp to make sure that no such mess happened. They could actually be relieved of their job if they screwed up. Where did this tradition go?
playgirl
Sep. 15th, 2006 02:50 pm (UTC)
Middle Ages
According to what I saw, the small knife I saw was so dull; it couldn't have even sliced butter. I believe the terrorists do this on purpose, so the process of decapitation goes as slow and as painfully as possible.

One of my LJ friend's stated that much muscle is needed to accomplish their terrible deed, and he is right.

I believe this is the most hideous method of being put to death, because the men knew exactly what was being done to them.

I feel it was much easier for the first man to be decapitated, because he had no earthly idea that they were going to kill him, and especially in the manner they did. He was literally taken by surprise. It was much worse for the others because they KNEW what was about to happen. I was surprised to find that there really wasn’t that much blood.

I suppose, during the Middle Ages, was considered an art; not anymore!
a_phoenix
Sep. 15th, 2006 04:14 pm (UTC)
Because they are SICK!!! They are not normal human beings.
playgirl
Sep. 15th, 2006 09:28 pm (UTC)
normal
No! They sure aren't normal human beings.
nishar
Sep. 18th, 2006 02:20 pm (UTC)
A good swordsman/axeman could easily lop off a head in one stoke. Odds are none of them know how to do it. And I am betting they want to inflict as much pain and suffering as possible for the audience's terror.
playgirl
Sep. 21st, 2006 09:38 pm (UTC)
By the looks of the small DULL knife, that's exactly what their goal is, to inflict as much horror and suffing to the poor victim!
olafthunderfoot
Sep. 18th, 2006 02:39 pm (UTC)
watch the clock on the burg video jump at a critical point, i think it's fake, plus there's nowhere near enough blood for a cut carotid artery!
playgirl
Sep. 21st, 2006 09:40 pm (UTC)
I was really surprised to see so little blood, too.

But, it just can't be fake, could it?
olafthunderfoot
Sep. 22nd, 2006 02:29 am (UTC)
it can be, and probably is!
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