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Are you for the Death Penalty?


THE ELECTRIC CHAIR.
COULD YOU?

AGAIN! Are you for the Death Penalty?

Did you know that the eyes drip down onto the cheeks
from the eye sockets, when the switch is pulled?

If you DO believe in the Death Penalty:

I'm curious. If you were the CHOSEN ONE, could
you pull the switch on a much loved family member?

Be honest!

Comments

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nsingman
Jul. 22nd, 2006 06:11 pm (UTC)
This one's easy. The answer is "No." :-)
playgirl
Jul. 22nd, 2006 06:17 pm (UTC)
Thank goodness!

So, does this means you are against the Death Penalty?
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immortalita
Jul. 22nd, 2006 06:30 pm (UTC)
I am absolutely for the death penalty.

But I'm also for harsher treatment of convicted persons, as well. I'd prefer jail was more of a deterrent for lawbreakers, and as such we could reserve the death penalty only for extreme cases (ie - John Wayne Gacey).

By harsher treatment: Serial Rapists should be castrated and tagged for life. This is a mistake you don't just let someone live down. Of course, it would have to be a clear-cut case of aggravated rape, and not just two people got drunk and boned, one of them gets mad at the other for not calling back, and now one of them is called a date-rapist.

Other things include: Third time convicted thieves lose a hand. Third time convicted libelers and slanderers are muzzled.

Furthermore, there should not be cable, weight rooms, or playgrounds at jails. They shouldn't get better meals inside than they were capable of getting outside. If they didn't want to work for it, they didn't deserve it, period. So why should we send them to jail, and let them live off taxpayer money? They should be made to do manual labor that regular citizens shouldn't have to. Cleaning, in particular, seems like a good place to start.

Jail should be a place that rehabilitates through pain, not luxury. Yeah, bad things happen in jail, but only one of them doesn't occur regularly on the streets the thugs grew up in to begin with.
playgirl
Jul. 22nd, 2006 07:30 pm (UTC)
I firmly believe in castration for child rapists.

I visit inmates who have me on their list, once a year in the month of February, as my cause for humanity, the Connally Unit prison at Kenedy, San Antonio, and once in Chihuahua.

I have seen with my own eyes, that they suffer greatly, and don't live in luxury what-so-ever. They don't have weight rooms, they don't even have a library. I pay for a FEW book subscriptions, and a yearly subscription to the El Paso Times to be sent on a daily basis, year round. You can't imagine how many inmates read those daily newspapers! :o)

Yes, there are MANY who are PURE evil. I have seen the devil in their eyes, and these are the ones who will never change. But, there are some, who are really sweet, and regret with all their heart, what they have done to break the law. I know there's hope for these inmates to change their lives totally around.

PLAYGIRL'S GIFTS FROM PRISON INMATES







I'm AGAINST the Death Penalty!
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manoman
Jul. 22nd, 2006 06:43 pm (UTC)
I always have mixed feelings about the death penalty. Generally, I am against it but now and then someone will be so viscious and dangerous and have done such horrible things to others that I feel they need to be removed.

No, I could not pull the switch on a family member or friend.

playgirl
Jul. 22nd, 2006 06:54 pm (UTC)
Yes, it's getting pretty tough, this thing of being for, or against the Death Penalty, and sometimes ALMOST change my mind, but never do.

I saw the video, Faces of Death where it showed an actual execution by the electric chair. The guy's eyes melted like lava, down his cheeks.

That's not a nice way to die.

I feel that the person, who is executed, is totally helpless, with armed guards all over the place, and most likely handcuffed. I could never kill a person in that situation. BUT, if I were to encounter him out in the streets, or trying to break into my house to do me bodily harm, then I could, and would, and without blinking an eye, blast him to kingdom come.

I am against the Death Penalty.
macdawgversion2
Jul. 22nd, 2006 06:52 pm (UTC)
I am for the death penalty, however, I would never be able to pull the switch on a loved one.
playgirl
Jul. 22nd, 2006 06:56 pm (UTC)
May I ask you this question?

If your loved one were on Death Row, (God forbid!) would you still be for the Death Penalty?
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wbahner
Jul. 22nd, 2006 07:08 pm (UTC)
I am for the death penalty, but only in very extreme circumstances.
playgirl
Jul. 22nd, 2006 09:54 pm (UTC)
But what if that person is possibly innocent?
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photosexual
Jul. 22nd, 2006 07:31 pm (UTC)
I'm a bit troubled by the use of the death penalty as it's been sensationalized in recent years by people seeking it for "revenge" vs. just removing a piece of scum from the earth when they did something to warrant it by criteria needed for "death" vs. life in prison.

I'm also one of those mean bastards that says if the prisoner wants life in prison, give him death. If he wants death, give him life in prison. Brer rabbit is an amateur compared to me.

So in that sense, yes, I do believe in the death penalty, but not as an emotional revenge response - more of one for the safety of society to kill people after being tried and convicted to remove them from society as a waste of resources and a very real danger if they got out.


As far as yankin' the switch on a family member? I don't love any of 'em, so it's not like that would be a deciding factor. If I felt strongly toward a friend, but they were guilty - then by all means let 'em dance with Sparky. Playing favorites for emotional reasons is bullshit.

I was reading about the chair recently due to another death done by it. Internal organs heating up to 140 degrees and such from the voltage. And the fact that knowing how to hook someone up correctly doesn't mean they'll get it - the old "dry sponge" in the skullcap and all of that sort of thing. I do think that people in a position to pull the switch and who abuse it or torture someone on the way out oughta be next. If a guy earns a right to die by legal means, do it right and not for your own entertainment or torture. Just kill him "humanely" (I use that term to define the methods - humane or not - that we have adopted to legally kill a person) and stop making it inhumane or painful on purpose.

Here in WA, we still have the gallows. A few prisoners have chosen that over the needle. Based on the botches and reports from needle deaths lately, I'd have a hard choice either way.

playgirl
Jul. 22nd, 2006 07:45 pm (UTC)
I once read an article, but can't find the source, where one man was electrocuted FOUR times, before the damn thing worked! I feel it's INHUMANE to kill someone like this!

I'm against the Death Penalty. Just give them life without the possibility of parole, and castrate the child rapists!

Read this link. I think it is just plain horrible!
Post-Furman Botched Executions
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tomcatshanger
Jul. 22nd, 2006 07:56 pm (UTC)
Nope, I'd shoot em. Base of the skull with a .22.

Or axfixiated them with carbon dixocide.

Why would i have to support every method of killing to support the death penlty?
playgirl
Jul. 22nd, 2006 09:18 pm (UTC)
Are you for the Death Penalty?
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stevie_stever
Jul. 22nd, 2006 07:59 pm (UTC)
There was a time when I was for the death penalty. That was before I was forced to acknowledge how the death penalty gets levied unfairly against the economically destitute. There's no way on earth anyone can convince me that a murderer who gets off because he/she has a better lawyer is any less worthy of the death penalty than one who can't afford a lawyer who will see he/she gets a fair trial. No way in heaven or hell.

Nor does the philosophy "convict the ones we can" strike me as a good one. If we can't lay down an across-the-board statute for which there is no exception-I don't care if you're the child of the president or even a televangelist, or if you're the orphan child of a rape-then we cannot levy such a penalty with any concept of fairness. It won't look fair to those who observe, and it ain't fair in reality as things stand now.

Furthermore, knowing the past history this country has had for getting confessions out of people who didn't even commit crimes (please note Illinois recent death penalty case fiasco), I know we have no business trying to enforce any such penalty KNOWING that by definition mathematically there exist innocent folk on death row in every state with the death penalty.
playgirl
Jul. 22nd, 2006 08:23 pm (UTC)
Oh God! You've got me so excited! Hold on, let me find what I'm looking for!
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nahele_101
Jul. 22nd, 2006 11:19 pm (UTC)
against it.
death is an easy way out, better to be stuck making liscense plates until you die of old age.
playgirl
Jul. 22nd, 2006 11:26 pm (UTC)
just like this
I agree, just like this:

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asifallforever
Jul. 23rd, 2006 12:25 am (UTC)
As of late i am very for the death Penalty. And yes i would have no problem throwing the switch if i knew that person was 100% guilty.
playgirl
Jul. 24th, 2006 03:39 am (UTC)
Sometimes that person who has been found 100% guilty, is innocent. I just don't want to ever take the chance.

Abolishing the death penalty is the only way to ensure that that ONE innocent man is not put to death.
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burningblue
Jul. 23rd, 2006 12:56 am (UTC)
Yes, I absolutely support the death penalty, and I think it should have a wider application. Child molesters, rapists, major drug dealers, armed robbers, etc should get this penalty in my opinion.

Could I pull the switch on a family member? No.
However, there is no need to, since the state hires people to do this on behalf of society.

I COULD however, pull the switch on a non family member who was tried, convicted, and sentenced to death.
playgirl
Jul. 24th, 2006 03:19 am (UTC)
But too many have been tried, convicted and sentenced to death, and later found innocent. The death penalty is not deterring crime.

I am not for the criminal, when I state I'm against the death penalty at all. My concern is for the man who may be innocent. I'd rather all lived, in order for the innocent man to live, also.

Why can't we just have life, without the possibility of parole?

I personally would prefer killing them, while they're committing a violent crime. This way we know for a fact, this person is guilty.

Lets face it, which ever form of punishment we now have, is NOT working.

As for the rapists, especially those that rape children, I honestly believe they should be castrated, no if's or what's.
dagulfsghost
Jul. 23rd, 2006 01:02 am (UTC)
I am pro death penality, and would have no problem looking into their eyes as I pulled the switch.
playgirl
Jul. 23rd, 2006 02:32 am (UTC)
And what if it were later proved that that person was innocent all along?

A good defense attorney is crucial. The poor cannot afford one. It's all about money and I don't feel its right. The scales of justice shouldn't sway towards money.

The wealthy and very rich get away with murder, because of this fact. Why should Martha Stewart get a slap on the wrist for what she did? Had I don't the same thing, I'd still be in prison.

Was it right for O.J. Simpson to get away scot free with murder? Why did he? Because he had the bucks to hire a Dream Team. Had I done what Simpson did, I'd be six feet under right now, and looking like burnt petrified toast.

The death penalty should be abolished. The death penalty applies to the poor. The rich are exempt from it.

If confronted by someone who wants to do me bodily harm, I can look straight into his eyes, and riddled his damn body with bullets. But to pull the switch on a defenseless guy; I know I wouldn’t be able to!
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see_dog
Jul. 23rd, 2006 01:47 am (UTC)
I notice that you have a slight obsession with prison..and well the death penalty seeing as it is often a topic of yours. Why?
playgirl
Jul. 23rd, 2006 03:03 am (UTC)
Because of her!

Because of her!

I once read about Karla Faye Tucker, and it broke my heart, because there was no need to kill her. She was harmless and she had turned her life around for the very best. That is the day I realized that the Death Penalty are only two little petty words that are the same as committing legal murder.

How simple it would have been, had they let her live, and eventually, let her die of natural causes in prison.

During the time I read about her, I read these two quotes, responsible for me taking a great interest in inmates (prisoners) and the Death Penalty. I know it sounds quite hypocritical of me, but it does say in the Bible that one should visit the prisoners (believe it or not, but Playgirl has read the Holy Bible, from beginning to end, two times in her life!

So, my causes in life are the prisoners, the animals, and the homeless, and they will be until the day I die.

"From this day forward, I no longer shall tinker
with the machinery of death... I feel morally and intellectually
obligated simply to concede that the death penalty
experiment has failed. It is virtually self-evident to me now
that no combination of procedural rules or substantive
regulations ever can save the death penalty from its
inherent constitutional deficiencies."
- Justice Harry Blackmun
Callins v. Collins

"Murder and capital punishment are not opposites that cancel
one another, but similars that breed their kind. It is the
deed that teaches not the name we give it."
- George Bernard Shaw

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duoraven
Jul. 23rd, 2006 03:11 am (UTC)
I'm opposed
I fully admit it--if it was someone close to me (a wife, a child) who was murdered, I can say that I would want their killer dead...and if I ever met them, I can't honestly say that I wouldn't kill them. But if I did, it would be wrong. Personal emotion and experience ought not to enter into it.

I consider all human life precious, a gift from God. I go in with that camp that says "vengeance is mine saith the Lord". I do not like the thought of the gov't engaging in the systematic taking of human life, on ceremony, without any emotion.

1. it's inefficient; one innocent person being executed is too many, and there have been far more than one; exonerating an innocent man from prison can be done, but bringing them back to life has proven a lot trickier.
2. it's not a deterrent to crime;
3. it is very expensive (average cost to execute someone is $1 mil)

I do not believe that it is corrupted in the sense that it is racist. I also concede that under certain situations it may be necessary: mutiny, treason or insurrection during wartime for example, but this would be the only exception. I do think the state ought to retain the right to use it (state here meaning our fed gov't) but that it would not be used in practice.
playgirl
Jul. 23rd, 2006 03:51 am (UTC)
Re: I'm opposed

I am AGAINST the Death Penalty, not because I'm FOR the murderer, but because I'd rather ALL murderers live, than ONE innocent man die!

I am AGAINST the Death Penalty because of the book of Genesis 18:20-32 --- 18:32 Then he said, "Oh do not let the Lord be angry if I speak just once more. Suppose ten are found there." He answered, "For the sake of ten I will not destroy it."

"Then Peter came to Him and asked, "Sir, how often should I forgive a brother who sins agains me? Seven times?"

"No!" Jesus replied, "seventy time seven!" Matthew 18: 21-22

"And the person who keeps every law of God, but makes one little slip, is just as guilty as the person who has broken every law there is." James 2: 10

"Don't judge, and then you won't be judged. For others will treat you as you treat them. And why worry about a speck in the eye of your brother when you have a board in your own? Should you say, 'Friend, let me help you get out that speck from your eye,' when you can't even see because of the board in your own? Hypocrite! First get rid of the board. Then you can see to help your brother." Matthew 7: 1-5

"Don't criticize and speak evil about each other, dear brothers. If you do you will be fighting agains God's law of loving one another, declaring it is wrong. But your job is not to decided whether this law is righ or wrong, but to obey it. He who made the law can rightly judge among us. He alone decides to save us or destroy. So what right do you have to judge or criticize others?" James 5:11-12

I realize that I have no right to quote parts of the Holy Bible, since I was a soldier trained to kill, and if need be, would kill if attacked, but I just cannot accept a person being executed while he is helpless. What does the word MURDER mean? It means to kill a person who can't defend himself. I call the Death Penalty, the act of committing MURDER.

moon_shine
Jul. 23rd, 2006 03:46 am (UTC)
NO!
playgirl
Jul. 23rd, 2006 04:19 am (UTC)
I couldn't either.
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inspectorjury
Jul. 23rd, 2006 07:19 am (UTC)
I think I could be for the death penality if we could be absolutely certain of a person's guilt. However since DNA testing has proven how often we are wrong. I can not agree with taking a chance of taking an innocent person's life. As to throwing the switch. No I couldn't do that.
playgirl
Jul. 24th, 2006 03:45 am (UTC)
I don't know if you saw this comment with links, but here it is:
http://playgirl.livejournal.com/158926.html?thread=3758286#t3758286

This is why, I am so against the death penalty, and will never change my mind.
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davev1968
Jul. 23rd, 2006 04:44 pm (UTC)
Yes, I do. I just don't believe in our (so-called) justice system.
playgirl
Jul. 24th, 2006 03:46 am (UTC)
Dave, our justice system sucks. PERIOD.
dlanor
Jul. 23rd, 2006 06:48 pm (UTC)
I am against the death penalty.

As it is used in the country it does not work, except in Killer Texas.

Most higher courts delay the end and most times the convicted never meets his end as society said. The result is that you and I PAY excedingly high costs for the legal system to go over and over the same thing. The whole process is a travesty, I know as I worked in it for 25 years. Nationally it must cost billions each year to have the death penalty on the books.

Do away with it, put these people away for life no possibility of parole and the same result without paying for all the F-ing lawyers in each case for the next 20 years.
playgirl
Jul. 25th, 2006 01:25 am (UTC)
You are so right!

But there's no way in hell they'll do away with it. Ever! The Death Penalty is a multi-billion dollar BUSINESS! Isn't it disgusting?!
daddy
Jul. 23rd, 2006 06:52 pm (UTC)
Yes
For certain situations, these people who prey on Children, they do not deserve to live. Those who are pure evil and will not change, then make them room temperature.

I guess that makes me cold hearted, and I would hate to think that makes me look any lesser in your eyes, but its the facts.

For those who will pay for their crimes, the electric chair is not the way. The execution needs to be death by hanging on the State House grounds at Noon and it needs to be covered by all TV stations and Public Broadcasting and piped into the schools.
I fiirmly believe that the reason we have all the crime we do is that there is no swift and perminent justice anymore. A convicted murderer having 7 appeals that lasts for how many years is not swift. I truly believe that if someone thinks his neck will be stretched in front of the world, he might think twice before he grabs that gun and heads out...

Just my feellings
moon_shine
Jul. 23rd, 2006 07:41 pm (UTC)
Re: Yes
just some thing for you to think on most police shootings
are suicide and they just wonted someone else to take there life.
and we all know that some people are just down right evil,
so I don't think that it works as a deterrent.I feel that
continuity in sentencing would do more and when someone is sent
to jail for life it is life not any less, what do they call it
"truth in sentencing" I think this would do more.
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bakerboy155
Jul. 23rd, 2006 10:46 pm (UTC)
Thats an easy one...yup I'm for it, and yup I could pull the switch on a family member....course my family puts the fun in dysfunctional tho..
playgirl
Jul. 24th, 2006 01:52 am (UTC)
Come on, lets abolish the death penalty. If it weren't for dysfunctional families, this world would be such a bore! ;o)
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